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Moscow demands removal of U.S. nuclear missiles

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posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien

Stop using a blog and trying to pass it of as something official. Since you most likely missed it fortruss is linked to new Nazi groups.


edit on 25-3-2015 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)




posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 08:02 PM
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originally posted by: MrSpad
I also think it is important to note that the Russians are in no way shape or form serious about this. Pulling out US tactical nukes that are their under NATO agreement would simply mean Poland, Turkey, Italy and Spain would go nulclear over night followed by others who would need them without the US umbrella. That of course would be a total disaster for the Russians.

This is simply Russian yapping. They want attention. They want talks to end santions and they will keep making noise until the West gets tired of hearing and pays them some attention.

Granted the is all very embarrisng for Russia. Its alliies and friends around the World have rushed to embrace the US, China has shown it support goes not furthery than making a mildly worded statement, and the former Soviet Republic whom it considers in its sphere of influence are doing anything they can to escape to the West.

For what was once a world power reduced to a regional pariah, this is a hard pill to swallow. Russia will continue to bluster and make threats because that is all it has.



Why would it be disastrous to Russia, why would it make a lick of difference ??

You mean it would be disastrous to CORPORATE INTERESTS, since they control America, and they want everything policed under their watchful Umbrellas.

You are continuing with this mentality to show yourselves as nothing good moving forwards as a Nation, and that should be the hard pill to swallow.

You cannot hold everyone down forever, something going to spring back much harder than the public is ready for, unfortunately.



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 08:02 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

It`s only a translation from a French interview with a German MP.

But as usual, "attack the source when you can`t refute the claim."
edit on 25 3 2015 by BornAgainAlien because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 08:08 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: learnatic

Why would I feel foolish about another persons opinion / observation on what occurred in the time when the USSR was collapsing ?

If we look at why the USSR collapsed, and compare it with Russia today, you can see the very same result.



What you do not seem to see is the USA collapse, and when comparing it with USA of old, you see nothing of the same result.

Good luck waging wars whilst you are robbed blind from the inside by your "allies".



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 08:16 PM
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a reply to: ParasuvO

I thought we were talking about out of date information and the hopes no one notices. Since you went off topic we are aware of our financial situation and working to fix it. Why do you and others just assume we don't see the issues in the US? Why do you bring them up in topics dealing with Russia?

It does not change any of the facts about Russia so why?

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posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 08:30 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

The collapse of the US seems to be the only thing what can save us...



The only conclusion that informed analysis supports is that Washington is the greatest threat to life on earth. Washington is a greater threat than global warming. Washington is a greater threat than the exhaustion of mineral energy sources. Washington is a greater threat than the rise in world and US poverty from Washington’s policy to enrich the few at the expense of the many.

The only possible conclusion is that unless Washington collapses from its economic house of cards or is abandoned by its NATO puppet states, Washington will destroy life on earth.


Source



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 08:34 PM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien

That is what he always does.



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 08:37 PM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien

What do you think would happen to the US should the federal government collapse? What impact do you think it would have?



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 08:37 PM
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originally posted by: MentorsRiddle
I believe this is a tactic to prove a point by the Russians.

However, I think I know a certain official who would love to bow down to Putin and use a pen and phone to remove the nukes just to satisfy an insane leader....


What point would that be? Putin has Violated REAL treaties by having the new Russian cruise missiles that are nuclear only let alone the short and intermediate ground launched missiles they intend to use if they wanted to target our ABM sites in Poland and elsewhere.

They use the ABM system as an excuse while the ABM system is only a limited DEFENSE system in case of a accidental launch or some nut in the Mideast getting one and popping one off at Europe, Russia or the U.S. so they are just making excuses to threaten their neighbors and NATO.

If Obama, I mean Hillary don't get off her butt and start manufacturing new Pershing missiles to station in Europe and shut him up he will get more belligerent in his threats.

New Pershings for to be stationed in Europe and Israel. MX missiles stationed in the U.S. one that is a true road mobile system like Russia uses. We also need a true stealth nuclear cruise missile since we have trashed the ones we had, just because Bush thought Putin was someone he could trust lol. This is all it would take to bankrupt Russia once again and keep Putin's mouth shut. They are terrified of these weapons and that is why Russia demanded they be on the chopping block or they would not deal with us back in the 80s.

For all you youngsters this is what we had before our Politicians negotiated them away so Russia would deal. Meanwhile Russia is making everything new and more lethal than they ever had before.

en.wikipedia.org...

en.wikipedia.org...


Ground-launched cruise missiles (GLCM) and their truck-like launch vehicles were employed at bases in Europe; they were withdrawn from service to comply with the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty. Many of the anti-ship versions were converted into TLAMs at the end of the Cold War.


en.wikipedia.org...

This is the exact Treaty above in bold, they have Violated now on many occasions.


BGM-109A Tomahawk Land Attack Missile – Nuclear (TLAM-A) with a W80 thermonuclear weapon. Retired from service sometime between 2010 and 2013




The U.S. Nuclear Weapons Council has selected the W80-1 thermonuclear warhead for the Air Force’s new nuclear cruise missile (Long-Range Standoff, LRSO) scheduled for deployment in 2027.


fas.org...

The JASSM looks almost identical to the ones we trashed. But, But these are more reliable lol. Yeah right, someone just wanted to make Lockheed more money.

Good news just a little too long for that to happen, especially when we already have the warheads and the missiles built, they just need to mate them together. How does it take them 12 fricking years to figure that one out? lol



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 08:38 PM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: Xcathdra

The collapse of the US seems to be the only thing what can save us...



The only conclusion that informed analysis supports is that Washington is the greatest threat to life on earth. Washington is a greater threat than global warming. Washington is a greater threat than the exhaustion of mineral energy sources. Washington is a greater threat than the rise in world and US poverty from Washington’s policy to enrich the few at the expense of the many.

The only possible conclusion is that unless Washington collapses from its economic house of cards or is abandoned by its NATO puppet states, Washington will destroy life on earth.


Source


And the whole world holds its breath waiting with joyful glee at the prospect



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 08:41 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: BornAgainAlien

What do you think would happen to the US should the federal government collapse? What impact do you think it would have?



As long as the U.S. has oil to pump it will never happen. The Federal Reserve bank gets a huge chunk of our oil and the control of its price, never mind our tax return money in exchange for new dollars to play with.



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 08:43 PM
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a reply to: Patriotsrevenge

That answer works as well.. I was going to go with the concept of Separate sovereigns between the State and Federal governments. Should the federal government "collapse" I really don't see major disruptions.



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 08:52 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: BornAgainAlien

What do you think would happen to the US should the federal government collapse? What impact do you think it would have?



On time, it would at least prevent the destruction of our planet.

Seeing fractures are starting to appear because of the disastrous foreign policies of the US lately, we can still hope that in time the backing for the crazies in Washington dissolves.

First we had France and Germany blocking US war plans in the Ukraine, and now one after another defies the US by joining China-led international development bank.

Britain, Singapore, India, New Zealand, France, Germany, Italy and Australia (The Netherlands is also looking into it).

"Colossal Defeat" For Obama As Australia Joins China's Regional Bank

With more and more countries now wanting to do trade outside the Dollar, the Petrodollar is going to end.

And with the end of the Petrodollar, it will be the end of US sole World hegemon ambitions...and we will end up with a World with several World powers; US, China, Russia and the EU.
edit on 25 3 2015 by BornAgainAlien because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 10:00 PM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: BornAgainAlien

What do you think would happen to the US should the federal government collapse? What impact do you think it would have?



On time, it would at least prevent the destruction of our planet.

Seeing fractures are starting to appear because of the disastrous foreign policies of the US lately, we can still hope that in time the backing for the crazies in Washington dissolves.

First we had France and Germany blocking US war plans in the Ukraine, and now one after another defies the US by joining China-led international development bank.

Britain, Singapore, India, New Zealand, France, Germany, Italy and Australia (The Netherlands is also looking into it).

"Colossal Defeat" For Obama As Australia Joins China's Regional Bank

With more and more countries now wanting to do trade outside the Dollar, the Petrodollar is going to end.

And with the end of the Petrodollar, it will be the end of US sole World hegemon ambitions...and we will end up with a World with several World powers; US, China, Russia and the EU.


Pipe dreams were you aware the world Bank is talking about assisting china's investment bank. And the Petrodollar you appear clueless as to what it is. It's the US economy that keeps the Petrodollar on top. But shocker it's not the only one but you know one it will never be. No what else China can do nothing to change the Petrodollar it's investors that decide.
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posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 10:13 PM
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I`m not clueless about the Petrodollar and the need of it being used, and the recycling system behind it.

Here`s an excellent videos for you to able to understand how the system works...


And here are some really good reads about how the situation is unfolding...

Petrodollar



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 10:26 PM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: dragonridr

I`m not clueless about the Petrodollar and the need of it being used, and the recycling system behind it.

Here`s an excellent videos for you to able to understand how the system works...


And here are some really good reads about how the situation is unfolding...

Petrodollar







You use a 3 year old video with incorrect information Off youtube by a conspiracy theorist to prove your point. Really?? Tell you what do some real research into the Petrodollar and what it is. Not what conspiracy sights think it is. Here I'll start you off on your education.
www.investopedia.com...



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 10:32 PM
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a reply to: dragonridr

Come on, the Petrodollar (system) is based on much more as that...




posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 10:33 PM
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Yawn. They've been asking for this since the 1960's.



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 10:39 PM
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@elysiumfire: "We have entirely all the wrong people as leaders, holding entirely all the wrong mindsets, and pushing for entirely all the wrong agendas."

That's about the best statement possible describing the U.S. leadership I've heard in a while.

Again, I'm not seeing this getting better at all. In fact, the more I read about this situation, the more I'm thinking we're just about done and considerably sooner than I thought.



posted on Mar, 25 2015 @ 10:53 PM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: dragonridr

Come on, the Petrodollar (system) is based on much more as that...



Now your talking about petro currency but you don't know the diffrence. Here read this and again stop with the conspiracy sites.
en.m.wikipedia.org...



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