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Would Invading Mexico Solve All USAs Immigration Problems?

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posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:25 AM
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a reply to: Kryties

Totally agree. Or at least allow to people to put a plant or two in a pot in their window sill. How simple is that? I mean it grows like a damn weed. hehe. It's ridiculous the way they are handling this. Having a few plants at home would mean the revenues from legal sales in the U.S. would be lost, and it's unlikely they will miss out on that big chunk of change, but it would save lots of lives, and much misery. I guess it's too sensible.




posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Krazysh0t

But then wouldn't there still be lots of problems there? I mean if the cartels just move to another shady business, they remain a major threat to the locals. I doubt the cartels would just slink away to regular jobs.


What makes the cartels so powerful is their revenue source. Right now they have a lock on a product with a near infinite profit margin. The reason they deal so heavily in drugs is because it makes them the most money. If cartels were forced to fall back on other revenue streams, they would have a really tough time maintaining the revenue stream they have currently. Which would you prefer cartels making $100 billion a year off of drugs or $1 billion a year off of other revenue streams (I know those aren't valid figures, I just made them up to illustrate a point)?



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:26 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: doompornjunkie

See this post where I addressed the all at once strategy earlier.


Saw it. Huge flaw though. The Mexican government is in bed with the cartels. They are corrupt as hell.

The only way to do it would be to take it all at one time. Don't give them too much time to think, relocate, or regroup.

Little by little is why we can't win wars anymore.


If you cripple the cartels' income source then it becomes harder for them to have Mexican politicians in their pocket. Not to mention, there are many peaceful ways we can go about rooting out corruption in the Mexican government.


So then the cartels move from drugs to sex trafficking as their main business. They pay the corrupt officials to turn a blind eye while they abduct women and children for their trade. How will the problem of the cartels be solved then? We're not going to legalize sex trafficking.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:29 AM
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a reply to: doompornjunkie

I'm not trying to take ANY of Mexico whether a piece OR the whole country. I was just responding to Kaylaluv's idea of taking a bit at a time so as not to crash our economy by adding millions of people to it working below the poverty line. War would be an INCREDIBLY bad idea and just make WAY more problems than it solves. Look at the Middle East. We'd end up having a new Middle East in our backyard. Granted, cartel violence is already worse than terrorist violence, but if we do what you are suggesting, then the violence would be aimed at us. And the cartels are WAY better funded to enact REAL terrorist threats against us.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:30 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

There is absolutely nothing that is ridiculous about my comment, thankyousomuch.

You can beat the bushes trying to complicate the matter, but it's really not that complicated. It's a simple first step in getting this situation under control. Any fool can see that. Arrogant insults don't change a thing.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:31 AM
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originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: sdcigarpig
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Would adding in millions more people to the system help, no, it would cause the country to have more problems than it already has going right now.




Put it to a vote, if the vote is good then tell all the leaders to step down or be treated as tyrants.



lol, so invading a country doesn't make you a tyrant how exactly?
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posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:32 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: doompornjunkie

See this post where I addressed the all at once strategy earlier.


Saw it. Huge flaw though. The Mexican government is in bed with the cartels. They are corrupt as hell.

The only way to do it would be to take it all at one time. Don't give them too much time to think, relocate, or regroup.

Little by little is why we can't win wars anymore.


If you cripple the cartels' income source then it becomes harder for them to have Mexican politicians in their pocket. Not to mention, there are many peaceful ways we can go about rooting out corruption in the Mexican government.


So then the cartels move from drugs to sex trafficking as their main business. They pay the corrupt officials to turn a blind eye while they abduct women and children for their trade. How will the problem of the cartels be solved then? We're not going to legalize sex trafficking.


No, but the cartels' influence would be drastically weakened. Therefore maybe we could fight them traditionally with the actual laws of the country. Right now, the cartels are one of the strongest entities outside the law thanks to drug money. There isn't NEARLY the same amount of profit that could be obtained through sex trafficking.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:33 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: doompornjunkie

I'm not trying to take ANY of Mexico whether a piece OR the whole country. I was just responding to Kaylaluv's idea of taking a bit at a time so as not to crash our economy by adding millions of people to it working below the poverty line. War would be an INCREDIBLY bad idea and just make WAY more problems than it solves. Look at the Middle East. We'd end up having a new Middle East in our backyard. Granted, cartel violence is already worse than terrorist violence, but if we do what you are suggesting, then the violence would be aimed at us. And the cartels are WAY better funded to enact REAL terrorist threats against us.


I'm talking about a more or less peaceful annexation actually.

The violence would mainly be aimed at cartels. They already murder Mexican and American citizens by the semi load, so I have no problem with immense and crippling airstrikes followed by infantry and armored units all over their controlled territories. Which are mainly in the North.. Most of Mexico wouldn't be immersed in war.
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posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: ladyinwaiting

It IS ridiculous because it is the same argument used by prohibitionists to defend the goofy prohibition laws. The fact of the matter is that prohibition laws don't work and circulating the argument of "just don't partake" is foolish, because people don't listen to it.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: doompornjunkie

I still want to hear how you think our economy can handle the large influx of below poverty level citizens. Don't you already complain that the government's welfare spending is out of hand? You DO know what will happen to that number should we annex Mexico peacefully or otherwise right?



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Doing a bit of googling, found this Cartels make most of their money not from Drugs

So making drugs legal, wouldn't even stop their LARGEST source of income.

Not trying to prove you wrong, like I said Just googled that, you seem to know more about the situation than I do, so i'm happy to be proven wrong

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posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:37 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv


Great idea theoretically - not EVER gonna happen realistically. That's like saying everyone should just stop buying cigarettes. It just isn't going to happen.


There are plenty of other ways to buy cigarettes. This is just an excuse for people to continue buying it. Excuses, excuses, and silly ones at that. Of course people are going to use it which is why I said be legal to buy it here, or grow yourself, but that part of my post is overlooked, because actually reading it removes something to complain about,.

Sorry, but this sounds like sooo much defeatist, silly whining. "Sniff, oh, but we can't stop buying it, we just can't" sniff sniff. Nonsense. Of course people can stop buying it.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: Eunuchorn

American Union - Amero - are you an Illuminated One, trying to condition us to be comfortable with the New World Order?

I kid, I kid.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:40 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: doompornjunkie

I still want to hear how you think our economy can handle the large influx of below poverty level citizens. Don't you already complain that the government's welfare spending is out of hand? You DO know what will happen to that number should we annex Mexico peacefully or otherwise right?


They wouldn't be eligible for welfare if they were a territory. Guam, Vietnam, etc

However US interests could invest and improve Mexico knowing their investments would be protected.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:41 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: doompornjunkie

I still want to hear how you think our economy can handle the large influx of below poverty level citizens. Don't you already complain that the government's welfare spending is out of hand? You DO know what will happen to that number should we annex Mexico peacefully or otherwise right?


We already decided they would be termed "Subjects"(or something non-offensive and Politically correct) and not full fledged Citizens afforded all the rights of welfare and other social programs right away.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:42 AM
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If you consider all the shadow Ops the US runs in central and south America(such as DEA/CIA running the cartels and whatnot) I'm pretty sure we wouldn't run into too much trouble from them if we invaded.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:46 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ladyinwaiting

It IS ridiculous because it is the same argument used by prohibitionists to defend the goofy prohibition laws. The fact of the matter is that prohibition laws don't work and circulating the argument of "just don't partake" is foolish, because people don't listen to it.


It's too big too deal with! Complicate the hell out of it". BS. The prohibition, yes, and we know how that ended.

We can't control what Mexico does, but we CAN control our personal actions. I believe if American kids and adults had a full understanding (put a picture of dead people under their noses if you have to, and say "look at this. This person died in the course of smuggling this contraband" they would be affected by it, and they would understand the consequences of what they are helping to create.

PEEPS: STOP BUYING MEXICAN WEED.
edit on 3/24/2015 by ladyinwaiting because: Removed parts of my post. Note to self: Just because someone else is being an asshole, doesn't mean I have to be. : 0



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:48 AM
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a reply to: PsychoEmperor

Interesting. That is some new information that I wasn't aware of. I see that the article is mostly talking about The Knight's Templar cartel. I still feel that legalizing drugs would have an impact. Though with this article, it looks like it would be more of a temporary impact than a substantial one. I'm going to have to rethink my strategy for handling them...



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:50 AM
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PEEPS: STOP BUYING MEXICAN WEED.


Is that something you would ask a drug dealer?

"erm, I just want to make sure these aren't blood buds'


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posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:51 AM
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originally posted by: Kryties
I vote that the rest of the world walls America off from the rest of us so we can set about fixing what the warmongers screwed up - namely the world.


I say we hire China for the above endeavor.
They build great walls




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