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originally posted by: charlyv
a reply to: Zaphod58
Sad. Also some reports from a camper near the crash site that said they heard loud banging noises coming from the aircraft, before it went down. Wonder what that could have been?
originally posted by: charlyv
a reply to: Char-Lee
Yea, that is what I was eluding too. If they have comm, they are required to do it. I guess you have to be there. No telling what happened in that cockpit as of yet.
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: jf1961
No. Sorry, but intuition doesn't get you far. If there was such a system there would be proof of it somewhere.
originally posted by: ciscoagent
The Daily Mail has drawn attention to the fact that on 5th November 2014 a Lufthansa sister plane flying at 31,000 feet near Pamplona, Spain, went into a dive without any input from the flight crew. On that occasion, the pilots were able to regain control when the plane was at 28,000 feet. The EASA determined that the dive was caused by blockage of the Angle of Attack sensors which, in a worst case scenario, would cause complete loss if control such that backward stick would have no effect. It seems to me that this may be a likely explanation for today's crash reply to: ragsntatters
originally posted by: AgentSmith
a reply to: ragsntatters
Looking at the flight track it seems to have transpired as follows:
9:30 UTC - 38,000 ft, descent begins just coming past Marseille
9:41 UTC - Aircraft is at 6800 ft over the alps (which are generally higher), telemetry ceases
My thoughts are with the families and friends of those involved, we can only hope there are some survivors :-(
Edit to add:
It was approaching 'Tête de l'Estrop' which Wikipedia says has an elevation of 2961m which is just over 9700 feet. So about 300 feet higher than the aircraft was flying. Why was he flying so low? Can we see if he was squawking 7700?
Actually I get notifications from flightradar24 if any aircraft squawks 7700 and there isn't one. I can't remember if there is anywhere we can look to see if they squawked another code?
It seems so odd they would descend like that but I don't know the normal flight plan. Perhaps they were incapacitated and the autopilot became disabled?
originally posted by: flyandi
Fuel starvation comes into play now .. no fires or burned areas indicates probably low fuel. Did they dump the fuel because they were preparing a emergency landing and failed to make it?
They were only about 58 miles away from the next serviceable airport (LIMZ - Cuneo International Airport) - about 6min flight time from the crash area.
Something went terrible wrong... :-(
Experts said Flight 4U 9525's rate of descent did not suggest it had simply fallen out of the sky – prompting speculation that the pilots may have suddenly fallen unconscious. As the French authorities appeared to rule out terrorism, it also emerged that:
Five years ago two pilots from the same Germanwings airline nearly passed on landing in Cologne. Contaminated air was suspected;
It is the third serious incident involving the Airbus 'family' in six months – two of them fatal crashes that have left more than 300 dead;
A safety warning was issued last November after a sister plane of Flight 4U 9525 went into a dive over Spain, falling at 4,000ft a minute before the pilot regained control.
Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... ts-likely-killed.html#ixzz3VO0IL3no