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Landmark study proves that magnets can control heat and sound

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posted on Mar, 23 2015 @ 03:52 PM
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Source: news.osu.edu...

Subtitle: Experiment reveals new mysterious properties of sound waves

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COLUMBUS, Ohio—Researchers at The Ohio State University have discovered how to control heat with a magnetic field. In the March 23 issue of the journal Nature Materials, they describe how a magnetic field roughly the size of a medical MRI reduced the amount of heat flowing through a semiconductor by 12 percent. The study is the first ever to prove that acoustic phonons—the elemental particles that transmit both heat and sound—have magnetic properties.


Phonons are particles of heat and sound. Related in some ways to photons they can be moved around by magnetic fields which means magnetic fields can compress sound waves and cool objects as well. It confirms work in some areas of alternative energy I have researched.




posted on Mar, 23 2015 @ 04:18 PM
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They are all sources of energy and energy of the right kind can control other energy. You can use a resonance factor or just frequency interuption or neutralization.

There are probably technical names for those, but I don't remember them. I tend to memorize things in a way that interacts with what I already know.

You can use a magnetic field to reflect or refract energy. Sound can interact with almost any type of energy out there.



posted on Mar, 23 2015 @ 04:19 PM
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originally posted by: machineintelligence
It confirms work in some areas of alternative energy I have researched.


If your research is in lattice excitation in crystalline solids, yes.



posted on Mar, 23 2015 @ 04:24 PM
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as a boy i found magnets irresistably interesting. they were like magic.
i remember reading a ufo contactee story years ago in which 'liquid magnets' were a factor in the saucers propulsion system (supposedly). doubtless there are as yet unexplored uses for magnetism still to be found.



posted on Mar, 23 2015 @ 05:20 PM
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Phonons are lattice vibrations as already pointed out. They don't exist outside solids, and are not detectable in room temperature objects.

If you want to measure phonons directly, go to a few milikelvin
... you know, the whole 'superconducting magnet' thing should of sparked bells.

if you think that, sound produced in the lab caused the change... you are very mistaken
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posted on Mar, 23 2015 @ 05:30 PM
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a reply to: machineintelligence

Energy has always been interchangeable its a basic tenant of physics. Cool subject with some interesting applications should the technology ever come to fruition.

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posted on Mar, 23 2015 @ 05:47 PM
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A few years ago some scientists anounced a refridgerator working on magnets...

Is this different?



posted on Mar, 23 2015 @ 05:59 PM
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a reply to: machineintelligence

We are still looking for how to grab the energy without a rotor is my personal take on this.

With out work, is the dilemma.

Long term I think I would trust in technology based on more natural systems such as photosynthesis and storage etc than magnetism.

Catching energy off an already swinging pendulum vs creating motion and picking at least resistance....


Nice topic!


Cheers



posted on Mar, 23 2015 @ 06:31 PM
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originally posted by: EartOccupant
A few years ago some scientists anounced a refridgerator working on magnets...

Is this different?


Very.



posted on Mar, 23 2015 @ 07:57 PM
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a reply to: machineintelligence

Thanks for this thread Op,

I have always thought magnets and sound were used by the ancients including Enoch and these ancient technologies now near forgotten or kept from the public at large to make and move large items or whole buildings, make places like the great pyramid in Egypt, change stone to softness that of clay and harden substances to that of stone, using sound for reaching higher human states of mind, using sound to activate lights,doors and stairways and more etc.... Like said in the bible there is nothing new under the sun.
Like you said, this confirms my works as well, and one is already working so this helps confirm me now to the mainstream as well. Sad part though the elite would wait till the end to loosen the strings lol........

This is a huge breakthrough for the mainstream to even admit this in my opinion but no surprise as the U.N. as deemed 2015 as the year of Light and CERN is running currently slowly to 13-14 by May-ish...



posted on Mar, 23 2015 @ 08:00 PM
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a reply to: Bedlam

I have signed an NDA on the research but it amounts to drawing useful energy directly from Brownian Motion Electrons by ordering them with permanent magnetic fields, and RF energy, basically cooling the waveguide and drawing off DC electricity.



posted on Mar, 23 2015 @ 08:23 PM
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I cant believe magnatism has not been thoroughly tested in all possible applications in the year 2015, it's completely stupid, wake up earthlings.



posted on Mar, 23 2015 @ 08:39 PM
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originally posted by: machineintelligence
a reply to: Bedlam

I have signed an NDA on the research but it amounts to drawing useful energy directly from Brownian Motion Electrons ...


Here's Feynman's ratchet for you, then.

It'll be Nobel time if you are able to derive energy from Brownian motion, Johnson noise et al.



posted on Mar, 23 2015 @ 08:40 PM
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originally posted by: BlessedLore
a reply to: machineintelligence

Thanks for this thread Op,

I have always thought magnets and sound were used by the ancients including Enoch and these ancient technologies now near forgotten or kept from the public at large to make and move large items or whole buildings, make places like the great pyramid in Egypt, change stone to softness that of clay and harden substances to that of stone, using sound for reaching higher human states of mind, using sound to activate lights,doors and stairways and more etc....


Well, you can rest assured that the work cited in the OP has nothing to do with any of that, in any way.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 07:57 AM
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a reply to: Bedlam

originally posted by: BlessedLore
a reply to: machineintelligence

Thanks for this thread Op,

I have always thought magnets and sound were used by the ancients including Enoch and these ancient technologies now near forgotten or kept from the public at large to make and move large items or whole buildings, make places like the great pyramid in Egypt, change stone to softness that of clay and harden substances to that of stone, using sound for reaching higher human states of mind, using sound to activate lights,doors and stairways and more etc....


Well, you can rest assured that the work cited in the OP has nothing to do with any of that, in any way.


You can be rest assured that in time it will. Modern science is slow, a wet fart in a kiddie pool compared to the ancients. Problem with modern science is they surround themselves with reason, real science and advancements come when jumping off the cliff of reason at the RIGHT angle and rising above the modern world. When science will whole-heartly accepts the supernatural then that is when science will explode and make leaps and bounds in every field and make new fields of science. An example of this is the luciferians completion of work currently regarding CERN and LHC. Sorry for an negative example but there a loss of good in the world and Hell is on its way.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 08:19 AM
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a reply to: Bedlam

Here's an example of the supernatural, science and one part of a sentence from the Op for you:

—the elemental particles that transmit both heat and sound—have magnetic properties.

First humans are electric bio-magnetic living organisms correct?
So when we hear of people going to haunted places or energy vortex hot spots like Sedona, AZ for example we hear of reports were people experience immediate drops in temperatures(usually in haunted areas) loss of time, hearing sounds from the other side/veil, dead zones for electronics, compass variations and etc... The main part I would focus on for now is the loss in temperature as this is when near a negative entity and the difference in energies between the person in the haunted area are usually extreme opposites so the magnetic life energies directly manipulate the temperatures between the two why you ask, it's nature's way of warning us when there's evil in your presence or a shift in energy vortexes which in most cases is not natural thus all the reports of uneasiness and fear in most real haunted scenarios. Also later the scientists will find magnets and sound are basics for inter-dimensional principles. But I digress. I feel my posts are taking away from the main part of the Op and has such this is me last post in this thread. To Bedlam I wish you well in your scientific en-devours and to the Op keep up the good work and thanks for this thread once again.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: BlessedLore

Please, and I really don't want to sound arrogant or anything, but could you give a definition of "electric bio-magnetic living organism"?

Because the term bio-magnetism is unknown to me and seems not to make any sense - magnetism is not produced by any biological process that I am aware of. Please state an example for such a process.

Edit: And magnetism does not play any role in the usual biological processes in a living being, aside from certain animals which can detect earth's magnetic field or the disturbances created by their prey.

Edit2: Okay, magnetic fields are created as soon as a current runs through a nerve, but its effects are of no avail to the organism itself.


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posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 03:06 PM
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originally posted by: BlessedLore
a reply to: Bedlam

Here's an example of the supernatural, science and one part of a sentence from the Op for you:

—the elemental particles that transmit both heat and sound—have magnetic properties.


Yes...but then the article went to silly world and started equating phonons to wall heaters and speakers, in an attempt to connect the research to something familiar for 20-somethings.

Phonons are lattice disturbances in crystalline solids, in some RARE occasions, liquids, and you can talk about phonons in single molecules. It's not how sound is made of the sort you hear on the radio. Phonons are not how your heater works. When you lie in the sun and feel that warm feeling, it's not phonons doing the trick.

You get down to individual molecules, you can start talking phonons having to do with QM vibrations and heat effects. But even then, you're not going to be seeing what they were looking at in this study.




First humans are electric bio-magnetic living organisms correct?


Humans are chemical reactions. Some of them have electric fields as byproducts. But your statement I do not agree with.



So when we hear of people going to haunted places or energy vortex hot spots like Sedona, AZ for example we hear of reports were people experience immediate drops in temperatures(usually in haunted areas) loss of time, hearing sounds from the other side/veil, dead zones for electronics, compass variations and etc...


If you were of a size where quantum effects dominated (did you bother to read the source article and not the OO LOOK A SQUIRREL article? No...) then in a really massive magnetic field, in a solid that was shaped very carefully, near absolute zero, you might see a very small difference in heat flow in one part of the semiconductor than the other due to the magnetic field.

However, "haunted spots" (there really aren't 'energy vortex hot spots') where you think you have temperature differences and what not are not related to this because it's not the sort of situation that the research addresses. As I said, the temperature you're feeling now is not a phonon thing, because you're not a crystalline solid and neither is air. Other effects dominate your temperature in the macro-world. You're also not in some magnetic field of truly ungodly proportions. It took a 7T MRI magnet to get a tiny sample of semiconductor at -268C to show even a tiny but measurable difference in heat conduction due to phonon behavior changes. And only then because it was just the right sort of material and shaped just the right way.

These effects don't translate up into haunted house sized non-semiconductor room temperature environments. This is not total control of heat and sound via bar magnets.

If you're trying to envision this as the sciency explanation for haints, then you've sort of bet on the wrong horse.



The main part I would focus on for now is the loss in temperature...


Me, I'd start with reading what they actually did, and what it shows you. But that's just me.
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posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 03:24 PM
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originally posted by: machineintelligence
Source: news.osu.edu...

Subtitle: Experiment reveals new mysterious properties of sound waves

Snippet:

COLUMBUS, Ohio—Researchers at The Ohio State University have discovered how to control heat with a magnetic field. In the March 23 issue of the journal Nature Materials, they describe how a magnetic field roughly the size of a medical MRI reduced the amount of heat flowing through a semiconductor by 12 percent. The study is the first ever to prove that acoustic phonons—the elemental particles that transmit both heat and sound—have magnetic properties.


Phonons are particles of heat and sound. Related in some ways to photons they can be moved around by magnetic fields which means magnetic fields can compress sound waves and cool objects as well. It confirms work in some areas of alternative energy I have researched.


SO there's the real reason for climate change then..right there.

Think about it..if magnetic fields can control heat (and light) Earth's magnetic field also protects the surface from both heat and light, deflecting or attenuating it sufficiently enough to allow life as we know it here.

However, our magnetic field over the last decade or so, has been fluctuating...there's a fair few threads i've read on ATS that deal with our magnetic field and some mention irregularities in our shield.

If the magnetic field surrounding and protecting Earth from the more damaging effects of Sol, became weaker or fluctuated too much, it could in theory at least, allow more heat more UV and generally not filter, direct, or control what hits the surface.

Of course, if true...this could also raise the global temperatures a little, change directions and potency of gulf and jet streams, increase cancers and animal and plant species die off from too much UV and other radiation emissions, encourage fungal mold blights and change weather patterns.

Wonder if there's data that would show a correlation between fluctuations in our magnetic field and rise in global temperatures, severe weather etc.?
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posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 03:25 PM
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originally posted by: MysterX

SO there's the real reason for climate change then..right there.



Not in the slightest. Nothing in the article affects weather.



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