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Speculation of Kremlin Turf Wars Continue as Putin Fires Two Senior Officials

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posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 11:34 AM
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If putin is a puppet he could've been ordered to fire those two people or maybe he wants more hardliners in his circle.




posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 02:20 PM
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Former Putin advisor and current advisor to the Kremlin, Alexander Nekrassov, is calling for war with Poland and the Baltics.




posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 02:24 PM
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a reply to: SkepticOverlord

That's it.. push Russia to start a war with NATO.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 02:32 PM
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a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Of course Nekrassov is crazy...they can't even take East Ukraine without repercussions that would cripple Russia, let alone start taking on Poland and the Baltics.

I don't think they have to declare war to cut of gas supplies however. But that's cutting off your nose to spite your face cause they have nowhere else to sell that gas right now. The EU would slap them with huge penalties and trade with Russia's biggest partner would grind to a halt overnight. A trade war is something Russia will lose very quickly.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 02:39 PM
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a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Any different than this guy?



They are as bad as each other with the warmongering. Get all those calling for war and death lock them in a cage and whoever comes out alive gets to call the shots.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: sosobad

Significantly different.

General Robert Scales is just an aggrandizing talking head anymore, he has no role in policy making. He was commenting on an existing conflict, not creating a new conflict with nations that are no threat. Sure, it might be the same if he were working in some capacity at the Pentagon, and announced the US should declare war on Canada.

Nekrassov is reported to be still advising the Kremlin on European affairs and politics. He plays a role in policy. He announced that Russia should start new conflicts.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 02:46 PM
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a reply to: SkepticOverlord




Former Putin advisor and current advisor to the Kremlin, Alexander Nekrassov, is calling for war with Poland and the Baltics.


And they say the US is a warmongering nation.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 02:47 PM
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a reply to: tsurfer2000h

I think we're still #1 in that regard, but Putin seems to be working really hard to take over our top spot.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 02:51 PM
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I think we're still #1 in that regard, but Putin seems to be working really hard to take over our top spot.


With the way he has been talking as of late about the use of nukes it's sure to get him there faster.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 02:56 PM
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a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Here is the bottom line..

Putin declared in 2005 "the collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest tragedy of the 20th century"

Now...keep in mind that the Soviet Union lost over 20 Million people to combat and starvation during WW2...But the break up of the soviet union was their greatest tragedy?

Putin is an old world Imperialist. He wants to reverse the course of Russia.

His greatest issue now is that the Billionaire Oligarchs will only back Putin as long as the money flows...and the Russian economy is sliding horribly.

Putin knows that makes him vulnerable...so he kills the competition and is trying to shore up his power structure for the challengers that are certain to come.

I honestly think these are temporary measures. He can't hold on forever in the face of economic forces.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 03:04 PM
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a reply to: Indigo5

Which is all why I still think there was a "stealthy soft coup" attempted, and ongoing, during the time Putin wasn't being seen in public. I also believe he emerged from that coup attempt through mostly negotiation with the hard-liners. Before his disappearance, Putin was trying to ride a perilous middle-ground with both moderates and hard-liners inside Moscow/Kremlin, including the Oligarchs. After emerging last week, Putin (or what Putin is being directed to do) is much more hard-line aggressive than he's been lately.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 03:41 PM
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originally posted by: SkepticOverlord
Former Putin advisor and current advisor to the Kremlin, Alexander Nekrassov, is calling for war with Poland and the Baltics.



That is some crazy stuff there.

Without a doubt WWIII crazy. For being an advisor he either doesn't think, tweets after too much vodka, or the Kremlin has such a low regard for our President that they are extremely confident he would be absolutely ineffectual and stand down to any aggression.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: SkepticOverlord
a reply to: Indigo5

Which is all why I still think there was a "stealthy soft coup" attempted, and ongoing, during the time Putin wasn't being seen in public. I also believe he emerged from that coup attempt through mostly negotiation with the hard-liners. Before his disappearance, Putin was trying to ride a perilous middle-ground with both moderates and hard-liners inside Moscow/Kremlin, including the Oligarchs. After emerging last week, Putin (or what Putin is being directed to do) is much more hard-line aggressive than he's been lately.


Maybe this hard line Putin is who he really was the whole time but was constrained.
Putin didn't give out high honor medals to FSB or Kremlin Generals, he gave them to assassins and strong men who the FSB wanted to control. Also Putin's top adversary dies right before his seclusion. On paper he shored up allies and his opponents lost out. His first actions were medals to loyalists and commanding huge military exercises to show he is in command.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 04:01 PM
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and all of the info thus far links that assassination back to the head of Chechnya, a close putin ally. I have seen speculation that with the Russian economy going down the crapper that it is going to become more difficult for Putin to keep his allies in place and loyal in places like Chechnya and Tatarstan.

When those 2 republics wish to become their own independent nations will putin allow it, like he has argued reference east Ukraine?



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 04:13 PM
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A war with Poland would end Putin, Nato would be forced to act if it happened.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 05:22 PM
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a reply to: SkepticOverlord

All I read is former Kremlin adviser, so no different as to the American General.

This is probably more what is going to happen if US is going to send in offensive weapons...

Russian Duma may reauthorize Putin to send the Russian Army into Ukraine



“The Russian Parliament ought to once again give the President of the Russian Federation to use armed force in Ukraine if the US decides to send sizable arms supplies to that country.” This announcement was made by the First Deputy Chairman of the “Just Russia” faction, Mikhail Emelyanov.


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Ukraine can expect the actual Russian army and airstrikes.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 05:49 PM
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What is his "advisor" role exactly?



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 09:09 PM
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Shortly after the alleged sacking of two political figures in the Russian government, which if true has added further speculation of infighting in the Kremlin, a pro Russian news organization as seen loyal to the Kremlin was raided by federal investigators.

Generally speaking, pro Russian or Kremlin news sources do not get raided. This however may add to the speculation of a power struggle happening.

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LifeNews, of course, is a pro-Kremlin "news" organization with close ties to the Federal Security Service (FSB). In fact, it's practically an adjunct of the FSB. It's used for all sorts of purposes, such as smearing Kremlin opponents, planting disinformation, and floating trial balloons.


A name I see popping up often is Ramzan Kadyrov.

Could Kadyrov Replace Putin?

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The allegations that Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov was connected to or downright responsible for the recent murder of opposition politician Boris Nemtsov have placed the spotlight on this most unusual of Russian public figures and raised questions about his power. Is he truly, as some suggest, the second most powerful man in Russia — with designs on becoming the boss





posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 10:02 PM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: SkepticOverlord

All I read is former Kremlin adviser, so no different as to the American General.

This is probably more what is going to happen if US is going to send in offensive weapons...

Russian Duma may reauthorize Putin to send the Russian Army into Ukraine



“The Russian Parliament ought to once again give the President of the Russian Federation to use armed force in Ukraine if the US decides to send sizable arms supplies to that country.” This announcement was made by the First Deputy Chairman of the “Just Russia” faction, Mikhail Emelyanov.


Source

Ukraine can expect the actual Russian army and airstrikes.






What would change Russian troops are already shelling them and shooting at them. Doesn't really sound like much of a threat really.



posted on Mar, 24 2015 @ 10:12 PM
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a reply to: dragonridr

Ukrainian army will end up like the Georgian army in `08, and after that the ultra-nationalist battalions can take over the Ukraine.



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