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originally posted by: sirlancelot
So what would it take for the US to actually start fighting these radicals?
Considering anyone and anything can cross our porous southern border its only a matter of time. Will it take multiple attacks on American soil like France, Tunisia, and Egypt to give us reason to actually get a plan to startd to fight these nuts?
If we arent going to fight abroad we can atleast secure the borders so its harder for foriegn fighters to get here!
originally posted by: sirlancelot
originally posted by: MOMof3
Sorry, but that just does not scare me into more war. Maybe if they come here we can whip their butts cause after 13 years "over there" we ain't whipped no one.
So what would it take for the US to actually start fighting these radicals?
Considering anyone and anything can cross our porous southern border its only a matter of time. Will it take multiple attacks on American soil like France, Tunisia, and Egypt to give us reason to actually get a plan to startd to fight these nuts?
Even if we dont want to put boots on the ground we could still be arming the Kurds, Jordan, Egypt, and others so they can atleast fight.
SO now Iran is fighting in Iraq and Im sure they have a motive to expand their reach in Iraq and abroad.
Obama's foreign policies are a joke and that is evidenced by him stating the success in Yemen and months later it falls to the radicals. Way to go!!!!
If we arent going to fight abroad we can atleast secure the borders so its harder for foriegn fighters to get here!
LOSE LOSE all the way around.
originally posted by: 200Plus
a reply to: Willtell
Maybe so.
Perhaps we should just "glass" the whole place at this point.
Nobody left means nobody left to seek revenge.
Perhaps you could explain first:
How exactly a fanatical death cult from the Middle East attacking people in the Middle East for the sins of Americans in the Middle East makes any kind of sense.
(simple answer the death and destruction in the Middle East began a century before America was founded. This round may involve us but they are not attacking "us". They are continuing their wars. Answer I'm sure I'll hear derp, derp, CIA!, CIA!, CIA!)
originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: sirlancelot
Why is Obama or I or any American responsible for barbarian actions over there? So you believe that Cheney/Bush spreading democracy philosophy? Oh wait, we are not a democracy. So what are we doing over there telling everyone else they need us and democracy when all they want are gods and 300 virgins?
We knew about the 911 attackers but because they were Saudi's the authorities let it go. We are smarter than that now and need to use that to stop them from coming in through the ports. There is no winning wars against religious zealots. Martyrism is a real goal for religious zealots. Until that system ends, there are no good solution. We have proved having troops over there solves nothing.
originally posted by: grayghost
List or no List the only way to stop these nuts is give them there holy war.
They do not and will not fight fair and this is understood.One must ask what really scares these people.
Then use this against them.It will be the only way to stop them.A good start would be pork infused ammunition.
Pork bombs,pork bullets.Then use any other means that will deny them into there heaven and virgins.
Does it sound brutal yes but how much different is it to beheading or burning some one alive.
originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: jude11
And where did ISIS hack into to get this personal information? If they claim they hacked DoD networks they are full of it.
originally posted by: MrSpad
originally posted by: sirlancelot
originally posted by: MOMof3
Sorry, but that just does not scare me into more war. Maybe if they come here we can whip their butts cause after 13 years "over there" we ain't whipped no one.
So what would it take for the US to actually start fighting these radicals?
Considering anyone and anything can cross our porous southern border its only a matter of time. Will it take multiple attacks on American soil like France, Tunisia, and Egypt to give us reason to actually get a plan to startd to fight these nuts?
Even if we dont want to put boots on the ground we could still be arming the Kurds, Jordan, Egypt, and others so they can atleast fight.
SO now Iran is fighting in Iraq and Im sure they have a motive to expand their reach in Iraq and abroad.
Obama's foreign policies are a joke and that is evidenced by him stating the success in Yemen and months later it falls to the radicals. Way to go!!!!
If we arent going to fight abroad we can atleast secure the borders so its harder for foriegn fighters to get here!
LOSE LOSE all the way around.
You seem to be a bit out of touch. Their are 3000+ US military personel in Iraq alone just to train Iraqi/Kurd forces. The US also has training camps in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey for Syrian Kurd and Moderate rebels. I also guess you are not aware of on going airstrikes by the US, UK, Canada, Ausralia, France, Jordan, Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and UAE. Germany, Italy, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, and Spain also have trainers on the ground. And guess what ISIS is losing. Everywhere the coalition is advancing and ISIS forced to die or dress up like women and run away. ISIS does and says outrages things to gain get media coverage and recruits and scare gullible people in the West.
As for the the southern border, can you guess how many terrorist have crossed into the US that way? None. Why they hell would the try and cross there when they can get a fake passport and fly in. Something would need to fly into Mexico as well, so why bother. Of course ISIS is not sending terrorists anyway. They hope that some random crazy person will take up the cause and do something to get media coverage. A point should also be made that border partols has 24,000 agents. Before WW2 we had a couple hundred, In WW2 we had 1000, from WW2 to the 1980s we 500-600, in 1980s and 1990s surged up to 4 to 5000, after 911 under Bush Jr. we got up to 17,000 and now under Obama we have surged up to 24,000. All that man power and money and not single terrorist caught. Because they do not crawl across a border like some poor illegal worker. They fly in on a plane, with fake paper work, get Taxi and a hotel room.
So please stop letting people scare you. You are playing right into ISIS hands.
originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: sirlancelot
Why is Obama or I or any American responsible for barbarian actions over there? So you believe that Cheney/Bush spreading democracy philosophy? Oh wait, we are not a democracy. So what are we doing over there telling everyone else they need us and democracy when all they want are gods and 300 virgins?
We knew about the 911 attackers but because they were Saudi's the authorities let it go. We are smarter than that now and need to use that to stop them from coming in through the ports. There is no winning wars against religious zealots. Martyrism is a real goal for religious zealots. Until that system ends, there are no good solution. We have proved having troops over there solves nothing.
While the information was released by an ISIS hacking division, it is unclear if there was any hacking at all. The information may have been pulled from social media outlets.
That's why members of the military are being asked to adjust their settings to online profiles.
If only they would keep their problems in the ME