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posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 07:06 PM
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These Republicans Want to Take Away Your Weekend


The new bill, which is being sponsored by Republican Van Wanggaard in the State Senate alongside Born in the Assembly, would add a provision to the “day of rest” law that could effectively nullify it. The bill would create an exemption that would allow employees to “voluntarily choose” to slave away for seven days in a row without at least twenty-four hours of rest.


With the implementation of the right-to-work law an estimated $5000/year will be lost by Wisconsin families, paving the way for employees to be willing to work more and more hours to cover that loss. Not all employers treat their employees fairly. That's the truth. This is just opening up for a slew of, what should be, labor violations.




posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 07:12 PM
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a reply to: links234

Never work. What day would they play football?



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 07:14 PM
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Well it's not only in Wisconsin it's the U.S. as a whole , it ain't going to happen relax that's like the law they wanted to pass allowing people to carry without a licsense...a reply to: links234



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 07:18 PM
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As long as I got paid overtime and was able to choose when I worked, I would be fine with it.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 07:26 PM
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According to the Society for Human Resource Management, thirteen states have laws mandating a day of rest for some or all workers.


The bill would create an exemption that would allow employees to “voluntarily choose” to slave away for seven days in a row without at least twenty-four hours of rest.



Sounds like a great opportunity for overtime !!



I wonder if there's problems in the other 37 states?


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posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 07:27 PM
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The whole right to work thing is a tragedy.

People can't just work constant hours until they die. Insurance will go up due to on the job injuries. I'm so discusted that anyone would sign these bills into law. Do they not think of the consiquences of these actions?!



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 07:30 PM
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a reply to: Iamthatbish

I think "right to work" means they can't force anybody to join a union as a job requirement.

Like the old "closed shop".



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 07:47 PM
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You guys do know what "voluntary" means, right? You can work if you want to. You don't have to do it. There have been numerous occasions when this policy has screwed me out of much wanted (not needed) overtime.

If I don't need the rest (and I'll be the judge of that, thank you), and my employer wants the help...

...who exactly is being hurt here? Or is it just about forcing the employer to do something--anything--you think it won't like so as to appear pro-labor?

Much ado about nothing. Political posturing and bulls#ing.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 07:49 PM
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The US inches closer and closer to a society akin to that of slaves. The only thing missing in the end will be the word 'slave.'

History repeats itself endlessly. Every previous Empire crumbled when those in charge forgot about the welfare of the citizens.

Then ... the revolution and we try a different model ... leading to a new Empire ... that crumbles like all the rest.

The one common denominator is greed of the ruling class. People making more money in a year than they could spend in a lifetime and always at the expense of the workers.

It will come. Notice that great sayings such as 'The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of tyrants and patriots" never ever talk of court cases and jail time .... just the blood! Such is revolutions.

P



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 07:59 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Iamthatbish

I think "right to work" means they can't force anybody to join a union as a job requirement.

Like the old "closed shop".


Right to work means its a right that you can work. This means that its a privilege for companies to hire you at all. The company has more rights in the working relationship than the individual.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 08:03 PM
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Closed Shop

A pre-entry closed shop is a form of union security agreement under which the employer agrees to hire union members only, and employees must remain members of the union at all times in order to remain employed. This is different from a post-entry closed shop (US:union shop), which is an agreement requiring all employees to join the union if they are not already members. In a union shop, the union must accept as a member any person hired by the employer.


The Taft–Hartley Act outlawed the closed shop in the United States in 1947, but permits the union shop, except in those states that have passed right-to-work laws, in which case even the union shop is illegal. An employer may not lawfully agree with a union to hire only union members; it may, on the other hand, agree to require employees to join the union or pay the equivalent of union dues to it after a set period of time.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 08:07 PM
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At the end of tonights shift I will have completed 76 hours without a day off.

I then go back to my regular schedule tomorrow.

When it is all said and done I will have 116 hours without a day off (11 days straight).

As a police officer I have no choice. The need for money makes it okay with me.

I forgot to add, two weeks from now I have to work my normal shift of 8:00 PM to 6:00 AM. I then have to be back at 8:00 AM (2hrs from when I get off) for training from 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM.

Not going to be fun, but again I have no choice.
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posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 08:12 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

This is how right to work actually applies in real life.

You're fired. No write up, no history of poor performance, nothing. Its not needed in a Right to work state. Now go to a State that isn't a right to work state. By LAW there must be documentation of reason for termination.

Some things look good on paper. Another thing people don't realize is large corporations tend to base their policies and procedures on the state they have their home office in and make adjustments from there. That means if you work for a good company the Right to work may not affect you.
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posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 08:13 PM
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originally posted by: links234

With the implementation of the right-to-work law an estimated $5000/year will be lost by Wisconsin families

Stop drinking the union kool-aid.


The main reasons people claim a state should not adopt Right to Work laws are that they lead to lower wages ...

This paper’s critical analysis of Right to Work literature has provided strong evidence that the first two potential drawbacks of Right to Work laws are red herrings. Numerous credible studies have shown that real wages in Right to Work and non-RTW states are about the same, and if anything Right to Work states have slightly higher real wages.

right-to-work-laws.johnwcooper.com...



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 08:25 PM
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Here in AZ I can work as many days as I want in a row... and I love it!

Lawmakers are doing the right thing by finally doing away with laws which take away peoples personal freedoms.

ETA: Also the fact that working the 7th day is voluntary still protects employees from their employers. Any and all opposition to this is pure nonsense.


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posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 08:35 PM
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a reply to: Iamthatbish

Employees in Right to Work states can join a union if they can get enough initial votes.

Nothing outlaws unions.

It just limits the unions' authority.

Nevada for example is right to work, and many unions are very strong there.




posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 08:57 PM
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NC is a "right to work state" where are you all getting these weird ideas. "Right to work" has to do with paying Union dues. I'm not sure where these other claims you and others are stating come from. Seems like fear mongering to me. If a company is behaving badly and a union will fix the issue everyone will want to pay dues. My wife is in a union and she pays dues. I don't think they get squat for the dues but we live in a right to work state. So what is the big deal?

One guy says were turning into a slave country? Come on people. Get a grip.

Phoenix358


The US inches closer and closer to a society akin to that of slaves.


V



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 08:58 PM
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Only soul-less mindless drones would be happy with this. I for one will continue to enjoy my weekends off of work for as long as I am able to. Amazing that someone would even try turning working more hours per week into a pro-freedom argument after our forefathers fought and died in the workers rights rebellions of the 1800's to get the 40 hour work week for us.

And yes if they remove the 40 hour work week standard and allow people to legally work more at a job, it's only a matter of time before the "slackers" are let go and replaced with more productive workers - people who don't care that they spend their entire life at work. Maybe they will even include beds so they can sleep there? I mean you might as well not even have a home if your never there, right?

Whats sad is that with increasing adoption of robotics and computers in the workplace we are employing fewer and fewer humans to do the same amount of work as before. For this reason it would actually be more prudent to adopt a national 20 hour work week and double all wages - that way we could employ more people and all enjoy more time off. But no we can't have that, it would make sense.

I want to get off this train. It's going straight to hell.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 09:00 PM
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I've done it under the table.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 09:06 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen
Why do you like to tell me about unions?

I've read and reread my posts. I'm commenting about an individuals vs a companies rights. Laws are in place for individual benefit rather than companies benefit in states that don't participate in right to work.



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