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US Military Troops/Warships in Peru - Peruvian Congress Approval

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posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 03:43 PM
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Sometimes you can sense there is “something” but too early to know what exactly it is. Maybe these are the first stages of a well-known procedure, how to fertilize other lands to assure the continuity of excuses for interventions.



In January 29, the Peruvian Congress signed a document to authorize the entrances of foreign military forces. The document is clear, authorizing the entrance of foreign naval units and foreign military personnel; it approves the transit and stay of foreign warships in Peruvian waters. The period of stay also could be amended if there are unforeseen circumstances.

Well, a lot to comment about just that document. First, I noticed they don’t specify what country, I just can guess they mean any country whom can join them on a particular reason. Also, what unforeseen reasons are they talking about?

On February 28, “La Republica” published an article with the Peruvian Navy statement confirming the authorized entrance into its territory of US military through the congressional resolution passed.



The US military would be part of a program of operations of the Armed Forces of Peru with Foreign Armed Forces. In detail the authorization would be for 12 soldiers, in rotating groups of 4 or 6 months, train with Force Special Operations Navy of Peru, as is done for 4 years.

At the same time, the Legislative Resolution No. 30302 also approved the visit to the Port of Callao of the Aircraft Carrier USS George Washington between 1 and 6 September. That’s way more than 12 soldiers. According to the news, this ship has 3200 crew members. They say it will stay only a few days, so let’s see if no “unforeseen circumstances” make them stay more time.

Funny tin foil hat moments : I’ve been trying to post this information 3 times already and had “computer frost” or “AOL oops!” for few seconds and lost all I typed before I click “Post”.

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posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 03:49 PM
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Unforseen reasons such as a natural disaster. They don't have to wait for a request to send ships down to assist after say an earthquake.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 03:51 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Trueman

Unforseen reasons such as a natural disaster. They don't have to wait for a request to send ships down to assist after say an earthquake.


Then why they need a Congressional Approval (from Peru) this time?
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posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 03:54 PM
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a reply to: Trueman

Pardon my ignorance, do they not need congressional approval for all exercises?



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: Trueman

They always do. This is just saying that if something unforseen happens, such as a natural disaster, they can stay as long as necessary.

All foreign military forces need approval to enter another countries territory.

When the Russian military would come to the US, they had to get approval months in advance, and have a US military liason travel with them. If they sent fighters they had to be escorted by US fighters as well.
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posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 03:58 PM
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Sometimes you can sense there is “something” but too early to know what exactly it is.


Well Peru has a lot of good food. It's on the coast. You realize the US Navy docks all over the place right? They can't just pull in to wherever they want, there has to be an agreement. I think the USS George Washington coming is completely unrelated to the other SF group. Find out if the guys get shore leave when they are docked. My oldest boy wants to join the Navy to see the world. Peru would be a good place to visit i think.

V



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 03:58 PM
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If you look at some of the news coming from Peru (like teleSUR) there's been a growing resentment at US military presence in Peru by locals, while the government has been asking for greater and greater US aid - expanding US bases, more aid for the "war on drugs," etc. This 'congressional approval' seems to be formalizing the Peruvian government's stance and assuring it can't be undone by future elections.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 04:01 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Trueman

They always do. This is just saying that if something unforseen happens, such as a natural disaster, they can stay as long as necessary.

All foreign military forces need approval to enter another countries territory.


Hmmm, interesting. But no natural disaster happened in Peru now. The carrier will be there in September. Don't you think all this could have to do with Venezuela?



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 04:05 PM
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No it hasn't happened yet, but by putting that in place ahead of time if something DOES happen it's covered.

They could just as easily park a couple of carriers in international waters out to sea if it was about Venezuela.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 04:17 PM
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I would imagine that since Peru is pretty close to Venezuela,the US is getting ready to attack Venezuela in the near future. They will use Peru as a jumping off point until they get a foot hold in the country.
www.democracynow.org...

Now for the life of me, I don't see how Venezuela is threatening us at all.But that sure hasn't stopped the US in Vietnam,Iraq etc.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 04:23 PM
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The only reason this is news is that this guy ran for office saying they were going to break free from US influence and focus on a South Ametican group only. However he has continued the same policy as those before them. The US and Peru are both members of the Rio Pact. I would expect the collapse of Russia, lack of interest from China and the only states interested in going there own way are poor failing states lead this guy to change his mind. Also Brazils pushing for even closer trade ties with the US also has to be discouraging.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 04:27 PM
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Now for the life of me, I don't see how Venezuela is threatening us at all.But that sure hasn't stopped the US in Vietnam,Iraq etc.


President Obama has shown a a complete reluctance to get involved in big war. Why would you think he would attack Venezuela? I seem to recall the thinking on this site that we would attack Syria, then Ukraine. Now Venezuela? The progressive socialist in the US love Venezuela, half of Hollywood was over there for Chavez: Source

The great socialist hope! Finally properly funded!


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posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 04:38 PM
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Something most of members here don't know and must be considered :

The Peruvian president Ollanta Humala was against the presence of US troops in Peru before he was elected.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 04:48 PM
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Unforseen reasons such as a natural disaster. They don't have to wait for a request to send ships down to assist after say an earthquake.

The US military is on expansionist policy the world over. There aren't many Muslims there though, safe to say.

Need better excuse… Earthquake preparedness, lol? Thats stretching it even for you…



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 05:07 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Zaphod58


Unforseen reasons such as a natural disaster. They don't have to wait for a request to send ships down to assist after say an earthquake.

The US military is on expansionist policy the world over. There aren't many Muslims there though, safe to say.

Need better excuse… Earthquake preparedness, lol? Thats stretching it even for you…


Good point. Peru had been taking care of its own natural disasters all the time, eathquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes, el nino....., you name it.

US military wouldn't go to Peru if it wasn't a good business. They are cooking something and all peruvians can smell it.

In this video, you can see the peruvian vets protesting :




posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 05:10 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Trueman

Unforseen reasons such as a natural disaster. They don't have to wait for a request to send ships down to assist after say an earthquake.



Also too, we just applied sanctions against Venezuela, who knows, maybe things are heating up there more than being reported?

Edit, Venezuela is 1224 miles away from Peru, so I don't know if that helps. It could be a ruse for us to keep an eye on them.
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posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 05:18 PM
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originally posted by: Variable
a reply to: Trueman




Sometimes you can sense there is “something” but too early to know what exactly it is.


Well Peru has a lot of good food. It's on the coast. You realize the US Navy docks all over the place right? They can't just pull in to wherever they want, there has to be an agreement. I think the USS George Washington coming is completely unrelated to the other SF group. Find out if the guys get shore leave when they are docked. My oldest boy wants to join the Navy to see the world. Peru would be a good place to visit i think.

V



My ex joined for the same reason. He was on the USS Wyoming. The one in the news, the submarine that went co-ed and got in trouble for recording fellow said females in showers and bathrooms (after he left military), and traded clips of the women like "Pokemon cards". I was surprised the subs went coed, but not surprised to hear of the shenanigans. Especially considering the crap they pulled when it was just men. The horror stories I could tell!


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posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 05:25 PM
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a reply to: Anyafaj

I wouldn't want to be locked in a metal tube with one person, let alone an entire crew of people.



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 05:32 PM
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a reply to: Trueman

You sure that the US doesn't have a history of helping?

www.defense.gov...

amcmuseum.org...

iipdigital.usembassy.gov...

Recent training exercise involving Canada and the US among others.

www.peruthisweek.com...



posted on Mar, 21 2015 @ 05:33 PM
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...who knows, maybe things are heating up there more than being reported?


That's for sure. Right now for example, there is a big problem between Chile and Peru regarding the border they share. Recently they reached an agreement but people in both sides are not satisfied with that, also the Peruvian Navy found spies between their officials and vital information was leaked to Chile.



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