Leave Scarface alone Hollywood!!

Why?

Why are they remaking this film? What benefit do they believe it would make? If it isn't broke, don't fix it ffs!

Who on Earth in Hollywood right now could pull off the Character Tony Montana like Al Pacino did? I can't even think of one single actor who could step up.

Here is the weird thing, I don't mind remakes, but now the brain deprived Hollywood seem so stuck on new ideas for films they have to indulge back into the past to make their $$$$, and it's becoming tedious.

But this is Scarface we're talking about, it's a cult classic film, for me it goes down as one of the best films I've seen, along with Godfather and A Clockwork Orange. Those films are never going to be remade because you just can't, there should be a moral stance when it comes down to classic films.

I'm hoping the fanbase Scarface has come out in force to stop this atrocity happening, and Universal Studios should feel not only ashamed of the idea of a remake to Scarface, they should admit that they got this one wrong.

What next? a remake of Sound of Music? Alien? Schindler's list? Where have all the Hollywood brains gone?


Just stop the remakes Hollywood, they fail every single time.

I'll even apologize for this rant because the world has more important issues...

But surely i'm not alone in thinking Scarface should be left alone, let it live on it's cult status, don't ruin it for money.

Hopefully if they go ahead with it, then someone releases it onto the torrent sites before the launch just like The Expendables 3 did (evil laugh).

Don't **** with Tony Montana!!

It's Scarface ffs!

Never seen it.

Won't see the remake.

Won't ever see a hollywood production ever again if I can help it.

originally posted by: skyblueworld


I'll even apolgise for this rant because the world has more important issues...

That's the only part of your rant I didn't agree with.

a reply to: skyblueworld

I agree entirely with the main thrust of your rant. Scarface, the Godfather movies, and although totally different, 2001: A Space Odyssey and its sequel, and a whole host more films, ought to be left well enough alone. These films exist within a special bubble of warm feeling, and to abuse the originals by updating them, would be a serious error on the part of the film industry.

Good on you for making a noise about it!

As boring as Scarface can get after a couple of viewings...

This is tripe.




Forget the script...
Casting is what will make this Seance of long since passed movies abhorrent.



But they did it to Total Recall...

So anything goes, I guess.

in principal i don't mind remakes, i mean if you respect the source material and update it using today's knowledge of movies, you could make something great.
the biggest problem is how movies (remakes and new) are all dumbed down to an incredible amount just for the sake of making something easy that sells.
rated R movies are turned into pg-13 nonsense.
characters are blank slates without ANY real characteristics just so you can easily project yourself onto them, god forbid you are exposed to a main character that actually challenges you. (nightcrawler did that but basically nobody watched that and it was wrongly snubbed at the oscars)

All this to say, remake does not NECESSARILY mean bad.
but you have to hope it's put in the hands of someone with enough power in hollywood to not have to play by the rules

HOLLYWIERD ... nuff said

a reply to: skyblueworld

So "they" can further divide the MASSES. This way it pits "Your Tony" against Your kid's Tony, the only "positive" is that IF made, it'll give You an excuse to be the "crotchety Old Guy" by saying "Back in the old days... Tony was, well,.. This new Tony just doesn't have the range...." Or similar words to show Your utter disgust.

Personally I think it is the "same guys" that made the first one, they would be just older, probably going full-bore into a "Mid-Life Crisis" They are pining for the old days when they made good movies not useless trash that pushes an agenda. This is their "Cherry red Corvette" their last grasp of virility the time is 1 B.V./B.C. Before Viagra/Before Cialis

a reply to: skyblueworld

Money talks, bulls# walks. At the end of the day, Hollywood's desire to make money trumps any fanbase's desire to preserve the posterity of the movie. I never wanted a sequel to Boondock Saints. We got two of em anyways and I've heard rumors of another in the works. The best you can do is pretend they don't exist and don't watch them.

a reply to: IShotMyLastMuse

Another problem is that a movie that fit in the time in came out will create a much lesser impact in a modern setting. A good example of this is the recent remake of Robocop. The original Robocop was actually a political commentary on the 80's corporate atmosphere run amok. It made sense for the times because people could relate as it was happening in front of them. Today, such things make little sense and the evil corporation just becomes a bland evil corporate stereotype. Hence the new audience loses the original appeal.

originally posted by: Eunuchorn
Never seen it.

Won't see the remake.

Won't ever see a hollywood production ever again if I can help it.

I have seen the "Scarface" with Al Pacino...Al is a very good actor...good at his craft...I watched the movie to watch him act. As for the new production of "Scarface" I won't go see it.

I am curious...why won't you ever see a Hollywood movie again?

a reply to: Krazysh0t

well i will admit watching the remake in a pretty distracted fashion,love the original one to bits and you are right about the message it had, but for what i remember from the remake, it was incredibly watered down. The theme is still relevant, i mean more than ever corporations are in control and not playing by any rules, they own us. so there is a good movie to make about it, but again, from memory, they had a watered down blank slate man as robocop, changed how he becomes a cyborg, removed all the violence (that was part of the commentary) and the thing i do remember the most is that the parallel about corporations running america was not delivered though the storytelling itself but my detached monologues that samuel jackson makes throughout the movie like he is giving a speech.
the reason movies like the original robocop or scarface stand out is because of how little they compromised.
and i fear that has become almost impossible to do for "profit before storytelling" hollywood.
look at the most successful movies right now: superhero movies. They are all a copy& paste work with little in them to challenge the audience, but they cash in billions.
Something like nightcrawler falls to the sidelines (yeah i am salty about it, sue me )

And then again there are those who preferred the first Scarface over the second Scarface. You know, the first one, staring Paul Muni from 1932.

a reply to: IShotMyLastMuse

Did you know that one of the reason big special effects movies dominate our theaters these days isn't because Americans want to see more of them? It is because they are easy to translate into other languages since nuanced plot details are hard to translate and those movies have little nuanced plot details if any. These movies also tend to do REALLY well overseas.

Hollywood Is Now Making Films For Foreign Markets, And Their Taste In Movies Is Awful

This article came out in 2012, but Hollywood hasn't changed since then. If anything the points outlined in that article are more true than ever.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I still prefer the original, even with the stop motion ed209. Same goes for total recall. Damn Verhoeven made good movies back then.

I agree, except I dislike most remakes.
Seriously? How can they raise so much money, just to re-do, something that has already been done?

There are so many great books out there, that could be made into movies. Does nobody in Hollywood have an imagination anymore? What is wrong with them? (I know, too long of a list!)

I am not happy about the Gremlins remake. Or a Goonies 2. How the hell can you make a good 2 without the original cast?

Stupid Hollywood.

a reply to: Autorico

Of course the originals are better. The original Total Recall was supposed to be a total mindf#. That lens flare you see at the end of the movie when Arnold is kissing the girl is supposed to be Arnold getting a lobotomy. About halfway through the movie, some doctor shows up claiming to be from the company that put him under and goes on and on about trying to bring him in to save him from a lobotomy. That is the scene where Arnold's mind totally cracks. He ends up shooting the doctor and from that point on, all sorts of fantastical things start happening. One more thing, if you notice the plot of the secret agent adventure that the sales man sells Arnold on at the beginning of the movie is literally the plot of the whole movie. Everything the salesman said happens to Arnold. I'm not making any of this up by the way. Meanwhile, the new Total Recall skipped all of these subversive elements and went for a cookie cutter action movie instead.

I'm with you OP

What's next? Goodfellas? lol.

It's not the plot with these classics, it's the acting. Period.

I'm looking into the future at Rotton Tomatoes and seeing 13% type thing with this one..

originally posted by: Eunuchorn
Never seen it.

Won't see the remake.

Won't ever see a hollywood production ever again if I can help it.

You really are missing out on this one.

Its an exemplary work of art

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Oh I believe you, what I can't believe is that they left that part out of the remake!