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originally posted by: Cuervo
a reply to: FlySolo
This is the mentality that created the jingoism we all lovingly remember as "freedom fries". I don't complain when they teach my daughter how to spell "church" or "steeple". I don't accuse them of Christian brainwashing.
My goodness, how xenophobic do we need to get?
"Farmville"?! Are we surprised a place called Farmville would be afraid of foreign sounding words?
originally posted by: WilsonWilson
a reply to: enlightenedservant
No i'm just saying you can say we dont worship him, but from the outside, it pretty much looks like you do.
I'm not telling YOU that YOU worship him, i'm saying that it looks like worship from the outside.
I dont know what your problem was anyway.
I was originally trying to point out that Mohammed is an important person in the Islamic faith, because somebody was saying they didnt think mohammed should be put on a par with God and Jesus in the Christian faith. I think from the outside you would say the comparison was about right.
You are obviosuly saying that Mohammed is not that important.
hardly something to row about.
originally posted by: Cuervo
a reply to: rebelv
No, you're right. That video starts 3/4 of the way through for some reason so I didn't realize the details until another member posted a link with some actual examples.
Some of it is definitely a bit overkill and I would be a bit put off no matter what religion it was endorsing, even if it were mine. But my response was to the idea that learning about Islam in a social context was somehow a bad thing. This seems to be a bit more than that, though.
originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
Oh...I don't know. Maybe cause Mrs. Obama is heading common core, or at least the stop-eating-food-you-like-so-we-can-spend-money-on-food-you-won't-eat campaign. Maybe Obama really is a muslim plant as some believe and this is all part of the war on America.
That...or maybe there are too many liberals in charge of our children. Teaching them that tolerance of someone who wants you dead is a good idea. You know, kinda like Obama trying to tell us that a nuclear Iran is worth discussing.
What the HELL has happened to this country!?!?!?
originally posted by: amurphy245
I respect other peoples religion but it always seems wrong to me when I see parents forcing that religion onto their kids,why not let them decide for themselves when they get older ? Is it because they will be less impressionable and not as easy to manipulate ?
In the UK I left school in 2006 ,I never noticed any Islam teaching and thinking back I was never brainwashed except for in primary school where they made us pray every day ,I don't think there was any Muslims in that school either,there seems to be an agenda now though of multiculturalism but it's not really working.
originally posted by: Kapusta
Wrong. On all counts
really ? you honestly believe "schools are Brainwashing kids into Islam ?" one little Isolated incident and your over here spreading the news like "our kids" are going to be the next jihad john !
I would be more concerned about Indoctrination they can easily find on YouTube ! or some wacky Jihad website !
but please by all means don't let me stop your crusade !
So why would the American Public School System and the politicians want to further the Islamic faith, push to have it become the One World Religion and nix Christianity?
Simple. Christians cannot be enslaved. Islam, an oppressive religion of control, cruelty and fear does enslave, which can keep people subdued. This is precisely what the future leaders of the One World Order want to achieve. And the misinformed, make nice, politically correct crowd seem eager to help them accomplish it.
But the greatest driving factor in all of this is money. There are the profiteers and politicians who stand to grow in unspeakable wealth and power by cooperating with the Arabs and finding favor by helping them and their pagan religion take control. They have no compunction in selling us out, and our freedom, to accomplish their goals. These greedy, self-serving investors stand salivating on both sides of the oil pump.
Reporter Nich Schou of the OC Weekly made a telling statement in October 2001: "Since Sept. 11, there have been two kinds of Americans: those who think the U.S. is out of touch with the rest of the world, and those who think the rest of the world can take a hike." It's this split which lies at the heart of the subject at hand: Some want American students exposed to other cultures and ways of thinking so as to better prepare them for dealing with the world at large, and others would rather American students learn only about matters pertaining to the USA and view the teaching of anything else as an attempt to indoctrinate impressionable children.
Is it possible to teach about a people and their place in history without also teaching the belief system that influenced them? We don't know. But we do know every effort has to be made in that direction if the one is to be attempted.