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originally posted by: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND
a reply to: olaru12
I don't know Gods mind only the little concerned with the himan race. God created a universe to us the size of a flea to those already out there and he has named every star in the flea sized universe. No I can't say I know His full mind but I know His Human mind and that helps.
I agree but religion needs a dose of God.
show him endless love and admiration in order to be rewarded after death or 2) endure torture for eternity. He gave us the gits of logic, reason, and a highly-inquisitive nature but then made it so we'd go to hell if we use those abilities.
He also made sex feel amazing but told us we can only do it with one person, he made alcohol enjoyable but we can't get drunk, and the list goes on and on.
God sounds suspiciously like a psychopath. "LOVE ME AND SHOW ME ATTENTION OR YOU'LL REGRET IT!!!" Did he create an entire race of beings just to rule over them mercilessly and torture them by making all of their inherent desires punishable by eternal suffering?
originally posted by: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND
Sorry I jaded you but you can see past that to this hey? I mean as a baby I went goo goo ga ga are you going to hold that against me?
Brothers will fight
and kill each other,
will defile kinship.
It is harsh in the world,
—an axe age, a sword age
—shields are riven—
a wind age, a wolf age—
before the world goes headlong.
No man will have
mercy on another.
The gods then do battle with the invaders: Odin is swallowed whole and alive fighting the wolf Fenrir, causing his wife Frigg her second great sorrow (the first being the death of her son, the god Baldr). Odin's son Víðarr avenges his father by rending Fenrir's jaws apart and stabbing it in the heart with his spear, thus killing the wolf. The serpent Jörmungandr opens its gaping maw, yawning widely in the air, and is met in combat by Thor. Thor, also a son of Odin and described here as protector of the earth, furiously fights the serpent, defeating it, but Thor is only able to take nine steps afterward before collapsing. The god Freyr fights Surtr and loses. After this, people flee their homes, and the sun becomes black while the earth sinks into the sea, the stars vanish, steam rises, and flames touch the heavens.
The völva sees the earth reappearing from the water, and an eagle over a waterfall hunting fish on a mountain. The surviving Æsir meet together at the field of Iðavöllr. They discuss Jörmungandr, great events of the past, and the runic alphabet. In stanza 61, in the grass, they find the golden game pieces that the gods are described as having once happily enjoyed playing games with long ago (attested earlier in the same poem). The reemerged fields grow without needing to be sown. The gods Höðr and Baldr return from Hel and live happily together.
The völva says that the god Hœnir chooses wooden slips for divination, and that the sons of two brothers will widely inhabit the windy world. She sees a hall thatched with gold in Gimlé, where nobility will live and spend their lives pleasurably. Stanzas 65, found in the Hauksbók version of the poem, refers to a "powerful, mighty one" that "rules over everything" and who will arrive from above at the court of the gods (Old Norse regindómr), which has been interpreted as a Christian addition to the poem. In stanza 66, the völva ends her account with a description of the dragon Níðhöggr, corpses in his jaws, flying through the air. The völva then "sinks down." It is unclear if stanza 66 indicates that the völva is referring to the present time or if this is an element of the post-Ragnarök world.
In stanza 44, Odin poses the question to Vafþrúðnir as to who of mankind will survive the "famous" Fimbulvetr ("Mighty Winter"). Vafþrúðnir responds in stanza 45 that those survivors will be Líf and Lífþrasir, and that they will hide in the forest of Hoddmímis holt, that they will consume the morning dew, and will produce generations of offspring. In stanza 46, Odin asks what sun will come into the sky after Fenrir has consumed the sun that exists. Vafþrúðnir responds that Sól will bear a daughter before Fenrir assails her, and that after Ragnarök this daughter will continue her mother's path.
originally posted by: Abednego
Sounds logical if you only stay on the Christian biblical side. But...
Only the Christians are saved, all others are burned up by an unquestioned fire.
Which Christians will be save?
Catholics, Protestants, Jehovah's Witnesses, Orthodox, etc...?