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History May Seem Random But Its Not, I found The Fixed Point.

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posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 09:52 AM
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Howzit ops and op posers.

I have a theory.

(If you want evidence all I can offer is:

History has been planed in advance. We are heading to a pre-determined place and nothing I or you or anyone can do can change it. That is because the human story has already been written and cast in stone. God looked at Jesus and then created history with Jesus in mind. All of this is for Him. It began with Him and will end with Him. Where we are heading is inevitable and always has been. There is only one thing to do resist or accept but even this is not up to us. The chosen have already been chosen from the beginning.)

THE SCENARIO

God makes a man in His science lab in the sky (before He makes anything else, He makes this man.)

So THIS man was the first creation. God looks at His creation with love and pride and wonders now. “What will we do with this man.”

So God sits down and begins to plan a story and so God plans history in its entirety and sets it into motion.

He says, ”Man must have a home.” And God creates the universe and earth.

God says, ”I won't put MY man (His first created) on earth to start off with, He can go later.

God puts another man and woman on earth who eventually chose to snub Him and so God loses His creatures who have decided to contaminate themselves with sin.

God must punish but God wants to save.

”Ok,” God decides, “I will send My man (His first creation) to save all the other creations, God let's His man be destroyed in place of all the other people but God has a trick up His sleeve because you see God wants to save His man (Jesus) too.

God ends up saving Jesus and all of His other creations but He says, because man turned his back on God, “Only those who believe in Jesus and have received the Holy Spirit will be saved.

Jesus leaves His Holy Spirit with man until the end of history.

Only the Christians are saved, all others are burned up by an unquestioned fire.

God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit and all the Christians rule the universe in peace for the rest of eternity.

Do you think God made a good plan for Jesus?

In conclusion: everything that is or was or ever will be is because of Jesus. It began with Him and will end with Him.

One more thing: Free will is an illusion right now (a time is coming when the chosen will be given true free will) but for now everything is pre-written.

We ar all just a small part of His Story.

Shot bru.





posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:00 AM
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a reply to: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND




In conclusion: everything that is or was or ever will be is because of Jesus. It began with Him and will end with Him.


How does this explain the Old Testament?

Religion is obsolete in terms of describing history unless you are a Christian Against Dinosaurs I would suppose.
(not that I think you are in the C.A.D. crowd)



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND




Only the Christians are saved, all others are burned up by an unquestioned fire. 

God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit and all the Christians rule the universe in peace for the rest of eternity. 




Why? Why does it always come down to one religion being better than the next?



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: IamAbeliever

Indeed. As if the Doom Porn should be restricted to monotheism.
Jesus Maitreya anyone ?



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:11 AM
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a reply to: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND

You had me until you said God.

I am no atheist but I fail to believe the Divine One is only represented by Christianity. Just as people are not represented by Aborigines.



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:16 AM
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Sounds logical if you only stay on the Christian biblical side. But...


Only the Christians are saved, all others are burned up by an unquestioned fire.


Which Christians will be save?
Catholics, Protestants, Jehovah's Witnesses, Orthodox, etc...?



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: Brotherman

God set history into motion holding Jesus back for the appointed time. Jesus was arround from the very beginning of time and before. He only made an appearance during the time of the Romans. He lived His “worldly” life and disapeared. This time was God's special first man ever created time to appear in history. He did His work and left history to continue. He is still around and waiting for the story to conclude so He can receive all that is His.

God created everything for Jesus, even you and me.



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:20 AM
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a reply to: IamAbeliever

Well, you must accept the fact that we Christians have the coolest doom porn ever.



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:20 AM
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a reply to: Abednego

No denomination will be saved. The people who are called christians by God will be saved.



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:29 AM
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a reply to: Trueman

Lol, the book of revelations IS DOOM porn!



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:32 AM
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a reply to: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND

But history and the bible don't align... There are many events described in the bible that didn't happen as described, didn't happen when they are said to of happened, or just flat out didn't happen at all.



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:33 AM
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originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: IamAbeliever

Well, you must accept the fact that we Christians have the coolest doom porn ever.


No, y'all just have the most prevalent doom porn. The coolest doom porn ever would have to be Ragnarök. It really doesn't get more metal than that.
edit on 18-3-2015 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND

But history and the bible don't align... There are many events described in the bible that didn't happen as described, didn't happen when they are said to of happened, or just flat out didn't happen at all.



Shhhhhhh....you may blow a Christian mind with that speak.....and then the name calling will begin.



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:35 AM
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originally posted by: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND

He says, ”Man must have a home.” And God creates the universe and earth.

God says, ”I won't put MY man (His first created) on earth to start off with, He can go later.

God puts another man and woman on earth who eventually chose to snub Him and so God loses His creatures who have decided to contaminate themselves with sin.

God must punish but God wants to save.

”Ok,” God decides, “I will send My man (His first creation) to save all the other creations, God let's His man be destroyed in place of all the other people but God has a trick up His sleeve because you see God wants to save His man (Jesus) too.



Sounds illogical.
If God created man (your Jesus) he would go like this:
Genesis 1
28 God blessed him ( I modified this ) and said to him ( again modification by me ), “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: Ultralight

If History had been written for an *borigionie I would agree with you but history was written by God for Jesus. God looked at Jesus and wrote history from beginning to end with Jesus in mind like a father would do something perfect for His firstborn son. Something special just for Him.

Imagine receiving the whole of history as a gift? That's Jesus place. That's how much God loves Him.



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:40 AM
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a reply to: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND

i like how you tried to be original in the beginning, then went "ah screw it" and jumped straight into proselytizing.



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:46 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

The bible and history are very complicated and ay or may not align BUT that doesn't prove history was not written for Jesus. Jesus and the bible are different ffrom eachother ones a man ant the others an inspired book.istory is written not only in the bible but I'm talking of ALL of history as recorded in any book which holds true records of past events. The bible together with all historical manuscripts hold the entirety of human history which is pastand there are boks which will contain events still to come. At the end it will all belong to Jesus because that's how it was made by God.



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:49 AM
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originally posted by: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND
a reply to: Abednego

No denomination will be saved. The people who are called christians by God will be saved.


But I thought the Jews were God's chosen people?

Now you're saying it's Christians. Yet Muslims believe it's them.

Religion eh? The root of confusion.



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:50 AM
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a reply to: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND

I want no part of a God that only saves Christians. There are plenty of good people who are not christian.



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:51 AM
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a reply to: HD3DSURROUNDSOUND

Yea... None of this makes any sense. If the bible is inaccurate historically, then how can you know that history is meant for Jesus? Oh right, because the bible told you so. The bible which is inaccurate...



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