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posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 05:56 AM
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I've recently been looking into the MK Ultra Project. I only have a general overview of things so far. It's really shocking (understatement!)

I wanted to ask about the people who were tested on. What did they believe was happening? Were they told they were being tested on but lied about the real reasons? Were they made to comply without consent? Or where they people who were vulnerable and weak, therefore easy to manipulate and get rid of?

It's terrifying that people were tested on and that it was able to be so cleverly covered up.
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posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 06:24 AM
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I've recently been looking into the MK Ultra Project.

Could you provide a link to what part of the millions of pages of interwebz you are referring?
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posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 06:42 AM
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I've just been browsing the web. Loads of random articles, from surface-scratching on Wikipedia for a general overview, to the "Today I Found Out website (www.todayifoundout.com...) to various news articles scoured online. Just a jumble of information really, nothing in-depth yet. Although if anyone can point me in the right direction for good research, please do.
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posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 06:51 AM
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a reply to: AlmostRosey

journey into madness by Gordon Thomas.

a very good pre-internet book covering ultra and search mk.

f.



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 06:52 AM
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originally posted by: fakedirt
a reply to: AlmostRosey

journey into madness by Gordon Thomas.

a very good pre-internet book covering ultra and search mk.

f.




Thanks for the lead



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 07:55 AM
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a reply to: AlmostRosey

if you are serious about research then this book will be up your street.
it lays out the concept and worldwide use of sld50 in psychiatric hospitals

so many patients undertook unknowingly so many horrific experiments.

psychic-driving and de-patterning lol, you may see parallels with modern advertising!

f.



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 09:38 AM
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The MK-Ultra was not one precisely controlled operation. It was widespread, had several lead participants and thousands of victims over several decades. In the existing materials online and in hard copy you will find enough to keep you busy for years. You will no doubt also find material that has been fabricated to hide the main facts and some will be downright fabrications to hide the true and full story.
One good place to start which is slightly off center of the main project is a 700-page book by the lawyer-writer Hank P. Albarelli, Jr. entitled A Terrible Mistake. His webpage is Voltairenet.org
His book follows the CIA’s dark work with '___' and how outrageously they freely operated across the whole spectrum of American society with shady characters, supposedly up-right professional doctors, psychiatrists, psychologist, chemists, etc. Invariably, their subjects (victims) were not informed that they were being subjected to a psychoactive drug. No one was ever held accountable.
If you believe that the US government has active agents on places like ATS to suppress activities that it rather not have discussed or revealed, then expect to see them here on this topic. That whole matter is not yet over, just covered up.



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: AlmostRosey

The MK-Ultra was not one precisely controlled operation. It was widespread, had several lead participants and thousands of victims over several decades. In the existing materials online and in hard copy you will find enough to keep you busy for years. You will no doubt also find material that has been fabricated to hide the main facts and some will be downright fabrications to hide the true and full story.
One good place to start which is slightly off center of the main project is a 700-page book by the lawyer-writer Hank P. Albarelli, Jr. entitled A Terrible Mistake. His webpage is Voltairenet.org
His book follows the CIA’s dark work with '___' and how outrageously they freely operated across the whole spectrum of American society with shady characters, supposedly up-right professional doctors, psychiatrists, psychologist, chemists, etc. Invariably, their subjects (victims) were not informed that they were being subjected to a psychoactive drug. No one was ever held accountable.
If you believe that the US government has active agents on places like ATS to suppress activities that it rather not have discussed or revealed, then expect to see them here on this topic. That whole matter is not yet over, just covered up.
A strong,true and brave post (especially the last paragraph). What you said is absolutely true.

MK Ultra is one proof of just how evil our secret government can be.



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:22 AM
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TranceFormation of America by Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien, How to Create an Undetectable Mind Controlled Slave by Fritz Springmeier and Cisco Wheeler.



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:45 AM
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There were a lot of different types of operations going on under that.

One of them was using people in very poor areas that would not be believed or were easy to manipulate.

I have some reason to suspect my mother was a subject at the age of eighteen, when she was first living alone in Watts, a very poor area of Los Angeles. She met a man one day who asked her out on a date. The day of the planned date, she waited in her apartment for him to arrive, but then woke up three days later, nude, in fetal position on her floor. Her clothes could not be found and she didn't remember a thing. She assumed she had been drugged by this man, possibly with '___' (and that is what knocked out her memory).

She had no family to speak to about it, and nothing she could do, so she went about her life.

Many years later, she was in graduate school at a major University, when she found herself working with a highly esteemed and (later famous) neuroscientist and psychiatrist. They became close and he was a trusted father figure for her. I remember her bringing me into his lab to use me as a subject in experiments (I remember them being biofeedback- but I cannot find any of his work referring to biofeedback), and bringing me to a party at his house (I was about ten).

It was only maybe a month ago that I found out he was working as an independent contractor under the CIA, in the MKUltra project, on behavior modification and thought control using drugs.
I suspect it was not just coincidence nor luck which brought him to be her mentor- I suspect, as a subject, she had been tracked and monitored through time and he might have even been her "handler".

There were other reasons I started to research the possibility, going back to my grandfathers' being in studies at Los Alamos laboratory in New Mexico.... but to answer your question (with what I can guess so far) some subjects might have been involved because of a multigenerational relationship with the agency. As people grow up with some taboos or unspoken of incidents in the family, they learn to treat their own experiences similarly, and become vulnerable.

Some "abduction" type of experiences, I suspect were not what they seemed (no aliens involved) but actually implanted false memories for continued monitoring and testing upon subjects. (can't sue the aliens!)

They have the technology to effect the brain, even from a distance, to cause people to fall into altered states of consciousness, and even lose control of their body. This makes it rather easy to carry on from there.
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posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 10:49 AM
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I thought you may be interested in this-



I haven't researched the topic enough to answer your question, or to know if this list of 5 is THE list, but I tend to like that youtuber's work. It's crazy and hard to believe!!!
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posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 11:45 PM
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Pandora's Box - And that is with the Human Mind and conditioning it endures .
The Topics are so wide - and the Experiences which have morphed today..

Some Main aspects too look into - It all ladders down - The Empire of establishment

A Main point to keep in mind that the bio-feedback and elements our bodies function with. Water, a great conductor and the Brain which operates off of frequency.

A) 7.83 Hz (earth’s pulse rate) made a person feel good, producing an altered-state.
B) 10.80 Hz causes riotous behaviour; and
C) 6.6 Hz causes depression.

1. Nokia Tesla - favour of an all-electronic induction process which could be “installed” -

MK Ultra: Project Monarch(a) / Monarch Programming /
MK Ultra: Philadelphia Experiment (b)
(a),(b) : Al Bielek (Merge his name with the topics)
MK Ultra: HAARP

Of course - To me , This is just the tipping point .. The experience , evidence - We will never see it then.. But we can be aware and see the effect it has too us all now. The devices we use, the music, the movies and Hollywood.

They wanted too know how the brain worked fully - Stimulated.. They won. Now wake up already, turn it off.



posted on Mar, 19 2015 @ 02:15 AM
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Do you think that certain regions of the world are pulsed continuously with 6.6hZ and 10.80hZ, at certain times - like in the Arab countries maybe - and are possibly modulated and tweaked over time? Perhaps certain areas of the world, or maybe even the entire planet, have been bathed in different 'unnatural' frequencies for a couple of decades or more. In which case people and animals have either adapted to them or have even started to disintegrate in various ways as a direct result. A rise in mental health problems, murder/suicide, rape etc. People like Dr. Robert Beck have referred to a 'woodpecker' signal, possibly coming from Russia, and he used to think, back in the early 1980s, that some of the negative side effects were unintended consequences of other satellite-based programs. But later he thought that it may have been deliberate. One thing he mentioned was the possibility of habituating populations to an unnatural frequency over time, then turning it off suddenly, thus sending the organisms into various states of disequilibrium.



posted on Mar, 19 2015 @ 02:25 AM
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My overall impression of MK Ultra, Monarch etc is that a combination of military R&D, which will go to any length to outsmart the enemy and the enemy's alleged or confirmed R&D/weapons, was the justification for the experimentation and actual covert operations. It does appear that 'the forgotten', orphans or inmates or mental patients, were the guinea pigs originally and that a variety of military-related goals were what 'they' had in mind: spies, blackmail artists, assassins, drug mules etc.

There may have also been sexual and esoterica interests mixed in 'mad scientist' style, as evidenced by people like Preston B. Nichols and friends. But there too they seemed to have a larger goal in mind that related to paranormal phenomena such as mind over matter and time travel.

[I had to laugh out loud when Preston Nichols was invited onto Coast to Coast AM's 'Valentine's Day' special last month. The guest host kept saying 'Happy Valentine's Day', then proceeded to introduce Nichols - and within the first 15 minutes he was talking about sex magic and boy rape. The guest host was worried she would lose her job! LOL]



posted on Mar, 19 2015 @ 02:28 AM
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originally posted by: AlmostRosey
I wanted to ask about the people who were tested on. What did they believe was happening? Were they told they were being tested on but lied about the real reasons? Were they made to comply without consent? Or where they people who were vulnerable and weak, therefore easy to manipulate and get rid of?


It sort of depends on the group.

Some were prisoners, and knew they were getting drugs. Others were CIA agents and servicemen, who didn't know necessarily what was going on. And there were lots of non-US citizens. The CIA isn't nearly as squeamish experimenting on Canadians, for example.

You might want to get one of the better books - The Search for the Manchurian Candidate by Marks, IIRC



posted on Mar, 19 2015 @ 04:55 AM
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originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: AlmostRosey

If you believe that the US government has active agents on places like ATS to suppress activities that it rather not have discussed or revealed, then expect to see them here on this topic. That whole matter is not yet over, just covered up.


That's a really interesting point. Can I ask, though, what you mean by the matter not being over but being "covered up"? Obviously as I'm new to the subject I can't comment either way, but wasn't the experiments of MK Ultra finished years ago and then already exposed? Or are there many things we haven't been told about yet? Just curious. Thanks


Big thanks for the replies here, and also to those who have listed relevant books. At least I've got a "to-read" list at the ready.


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posted on Mar, 19 2015 @ 09:52 AM
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The people involved will swear up and down that the project ended because mind control didn't work and nothing useful came of it; though many doubt that is true. Others say they merely moved the experiments out of the lab and into the cults, for better plausible deniability.

The darkest rumors around mind control concern experiments on young children, using violent trauma to induce the subject to develop alter personalities, that could later be triggered at the will of the controller.

"How The Illuminati Create An Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave" -
by Illuminati Formula

"Operation Mind Control" -
by Walter Bowart

If you don't have time to read the books here is an excellent introductory essay:
vigilantcitizen.com...



posted on Mar, 27 2015 @ 12:21 AM
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originally posted by: corsair00
a reply to: Y3K89

Do you think that certain regions of the world are pulsed continuously with 6.6hZ and 10.80hZ, at certain times - like in the Arab countries maybe - and are possibly modulated and tweaked over time? Perhaps certain areas of the world, or maybe even the entire planet, have been bathed in different 'unnatural' frequencies for a couple of decades or more. In which case people and animals have either adapted to them or have even started to disintegrate in various ways as a direct result. A rise in mental health problems, murder/suicide, rape etc. People like Dr. Robert Beck have referred to a 'woodpecker' signal, possibly coming from Russia, and he used to think, back in the early 1980s, that some of the negative side effects were unintended consequences of other satellite-based programs. But later he thought that it may have been deliberate. One thing he mentioned was the possibility of habituating populations to an unnatural frequency over time, then turning it off suddenly, thus sending the organisms into various states of disequilibrium.


I don't think , we know. As you where saying aspects of religion using "pulsed frequency " . Think of a more basic format, but correct mindset. We "prey" to our gods.. now think of chanting.. how powerful it can be in groups.. or how about the hypnotic effects of singing bowls / bells or drums, also used with religion and meditation.

Meditation is a good example with relations to mk ultra, why because of the social and affect on self. Consider this, the practice and teaching of Vipassana meditation, consists of 10 days of silence.. no interaction except with your teacher /master on your time..
the objective with being silent for 10 days is your mind will drift into many levels and stages from development and past experience good and bad, emotion.. these *"Triggers"* I call them .. Eventually throughout the feeling, factors, memories .. you reach the center of self, a very powerful and healing intuitivintuitive. You find why those judgments and mistakes, rewards, work the way they did in your favor. The brain becomes silent, no more does it weep in future or past.

The stimulating alter from MK Ultra in ways worked the same way , using drugs, stimulating sound and light, vibration, current.. in all techniques and technology then, with altering modification to stimulate the vibration and again frequency of the human brain. Belief structure, reward systematic, fight or flight.. all the senses of living to make our judgment in artificial context.. the battle then was for the future indenvour for today .

Just a thought..



posted on Nov, 6 2016 @ 09:28 PM
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Due to all of MKULTRA-like techniques used as a widespread neurological weapon on a substantially large part of the population for the purpose of personality manipulation and alteration, it isn't hard to figure out that this is precisely the biggest weakness of the EU. Millions of people might all of a sudden begin to realize what is actually happening, and would be questioning the authenticity of their own personality, thereby creating a very serious psychological condition that could last quite long and that would impede normal functioning of the EU rendering it an east prey to any kind of external pressure.



posted on Nov, 6 2016 @ 10:21 PM
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I'd suggest checking out Derren Brown on youtube.

He's made his own manchurian candidates. I'm not sure how much of MKultra is real but it's definitely plausible.





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