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Back to war? Ukrainian parliament rejects the Minsk agreement

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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 03:47 PM
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After already missing deadlines and ongoing provocations from Ukrainian side, this was to be expected.

As the article also emphasizes, we will see if the West is all about war when they are going to ignore slapping Kiev on the wrist and let them continue with violating the Minsk 2 agreement.

Anyone willing to bet about what The West is going to do, besides the money they already gave so the hostilities can continue...

...and remember, there is absolutely no change of another peace agreement, this will go down to the wire once it starts again!

Probably Russia will have no other choice and to take out Kiev in the end, because the Separatists themselves don`t have the troops to do that...and in the end the US War Hawks get what they want, Russia going in full force, lots more victims, and possible a public backlash in public opinion about Putin in Russia (that`s what`s all about anyway)...the more Russian corpses, the worse it will be for Putin.

The propaganda works, because 49% of the Americans are now seeing Russian military power as threat to U.S., instead of their own lunatics in Washington of course.

So watch out if The West is actually going to get Kiev by their balls or not.

Back to war? Ukrainian parliament rejects the Minsk agreement



A month after the Minsk agreement the masks are off. New weapons are coming, American instructors are in Ukraine, the IMF credit is approved. Time to get back to killing the kids of Donbass. Where are the sanctions on Kiev?

Did anyone have any doubts that those who chose bombs instead of talks a year ago will flip and turn into peacemakers? There is no other choice in the alternate reality perpetuated by the Ukrainian media. There is no other choice for the ultra-nationalist Kiev government, like there was no choice for Hitler. It has to follow the program. They only understand the language of force. Only when Novorossia forces enter Kiev will anything change.

The only reason they paused the war is because they were annihilated, and couldn't physically go on. But that's no longer a problem, thanks to the Americans, who can't wait to start killing the Russians.

Will Europe open its eyes and realize what monster they helped create?

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News Novorossia Poroshenko Block Ukraine War “A full-scale war with Russia may begin in April or May”--Lutsenko



A full-scale war with Russia may begin in April or May. Petro Poroshenko Block deputy Yuriy Lutsenko made this announcement on March 16 on the “Free Speech” TV station. He also emphasized the need to increase the fighting power of the UAF since, according to Lutsenko, there exists a real threat of a full-scale war.

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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 03:58 PM
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Could this be what the historians call the beginning of WWIII? Just posting to come back to this one. S&F



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 03:59 PM
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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:07 PM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien

We're getting awfully close to my predicted date for WWIII on 3/21/2015. Im expecting the trigger event to coincide with the 3/20 eclypse.

Lets see what happens.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:25 PM
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So we have gone so far that now blogs are the mainstay of truth, while only being an opinion of the writer.

Amazing....



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:31 PM
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So we have gone so far that now blogs are the mainstay of truth, while only being an opinion of the writer.

Amazing....


I just upped the level on ATS again, coming from rumours we are now actually back at a blog reporting about a political vote and a politician speaking out.

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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:34 PM
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After already missing deadlines and ongoing provocations from Ukrainian side, this was to be expected.


And yet you gloss right over the fact that the separatists have violated the cease fire...


Ukraine slams separatist rebels for violating truce


www.npr.org...

You really need to read something other than Russian blogs, and Russian media as it seems too have taken over all of your common sense.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:39 PM
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I just upped the level on ATS again, coming from rumours we are now actually back at a blog reporting about a political vote and a politician speaking out.


No you haven't as we all know you condemn blogs when they go against your pal Putin, but when it's something good for Russia and bad for the west it's gospel to you.

You know what that says about you right?



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 06:04 PM
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Interesting watch and read about the strategies of the Empire of Chaos...

So US tries to contain Russia with NATO around its border (Baltics/Caucasus) and at the same time tries to prevent an Alliance between Germany and Russia.

But first listen about what Friedman (Stratfor) has to say about how the Empire can maintain it`s power...

Video 4:56 Minutes

Video 14:25 Minutes

And the other part of the strategy will be making chaos to contain China...

The US is juggling chaos and coordination in order to contain China



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 06:21 PM
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It's not like Washington is giving anyone a option in this . If the peace holds there will be another coup in Kiev and Washington knows it and so peace is not a option .Porkeyshinco cant keep all the sides in Kiev in line and so the coup is the only way the Ukrainians can deal with the problem .

The East is only a few moments away from going back at it with the west .They couldn't win before and they wont this time .It's a money game like the sanctions that didn't work and as long as Russia doesn't take the bait there wont be new sanctions .Washington is fighting by proxy a war with Russia that they cant win . It's only going to be the Ukrainians that loose and the end results looks like a failed state in civil war on the EU border that they will have to fix because the US will not do it and Russia didn't break it .



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 06:36 PM
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US is scared as shid because it isn`t nearly as powerful as everyone thinks and China and Russia are building their armies very rapidly (pressed by the actions of US themselves) and closing the technology gap fast (Russia is also going for a second carrier)...so US is desperately pushing the plans as described in my post before...

...they think it has to be now or never to stay World hegemon, or else both China and Russia will be too powerful and the Empire will end...is that going to end well for the World?...I have my doubts.
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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 07:22 PM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: the2ofusr1

US is scared as shid because it isn`t nearly as powerful as everyone thinks and China and Russia are building their armies very rapidly (pressed by the actions of US themselves) and closing the technology gap fast (Russia is also going for a second carrier)...so US is desperately pushing the plans as described in my post before...

...they think it has to be now or never to stay World hegemon, or else both China and Russia will be too powerful and the Empire will end...is that going to end well for the World?...I have my doubts.


Its cute that you think Russia's cruiser is an aircraft carrier. They have one on the drawing board but it's at least a decade away from completion. Provided they can overcome problems they have with hydraulics. This is why the Russians went with the ramp instead of hydraulics. But also means they are sitting ducks in bad weather since they can't launch aircraft off the deck. I think your overstating China and Russias military prowess a bit. US sadly spends more than the two combined and technology well let's just say they won't catch up anytime soon.

Now not sure why your derailing the thread but your blogger is wrong what the RADA voted on has nothing to do with the Minsk agreement. This seems to be some weird interpretation by the blogger. But as they say spin is usually diffrwnt from the facts.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 07:40 PM
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It`s not about technology alone, but troops do matter too.

Listen to Friedman, US can defeat a country, but can`t secure it because it takes way too many troops.

And with technology it`s not about having to be at the same level, but about the gap not being too big, and China and Russia are closing the gap which means the gap won`t be big enough.
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posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 04:36 AM
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posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 04:47 AM
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Is Wolfowitz, when referring to “hostile power” referring to any power independent of Washington’s control?


No, he is referring to any nation that is actively attempting to aggrandize itself at the expense of the United States or its allies. This is a scarcely coded reference to Russia, of course. Nations that the United States cannot "control," or influence tend to be left alone so long as they don't bother anyone. Cuba, Venezuela and, until recently, China, are examples of this benign neglect.



posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 04:55 AM
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West/NATO will likely match Russia tit for tat in Ukraine.

So long as the global perception is that Russian chooses each rung on escalation ladder, China will be forced to remain neutral.

U.S. driven debt, political and trade entanglements with China for past two decades are designed to keep them neutral in this kind of situation.

Keeping China neutral in this situation prevents China from allying with Russia, which is the generational timeline goal.

The more debt we rack up to China, the more entangled they become, the more inhibited they are from taking sides in fringe conflicts, the more a wedge is driven between Russia and China.

Mexican standoff on global scale.
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posted on Mar, 18 2015 @ 07:24 AM
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The war must go on...

Ukraine plans to regain control over Donbas by all means — PM Yatsenyuk



KIEV, March 18. /TASS/. Ukraine intends to restore peace and regain control over the south-eastern Donbas region by all means, Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said on Wednesday


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posted on Mar, 19 2015 @ 06:37 AM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien

Found this quick take on the options Kiev has at the moment and seems will continue as long as Washington is going to be involved .



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