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Harmless Fun or Sinister Undercurrents?

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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 01:39 PM
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Firstly, I wasn't sure where to start this so please move if this isn't the appropriate place.

I read this story Head teacher hires prostitute and wanted to discuss with members here and find out your thoughts.

Daily Mail link.. Link (the language the Mail uses has this guy almost hung, drawn and quartered for something quite innocent?



My first thought when I read it initially was "It's no business of the school what the teacher does outside of work, he paid for sex.. big deal, lots of people do, why is this even a story?"

The girl offered to dress in a uniform (school uniform), it doesn't say he asked or demanded it. he said he would "be keen"

It's a harmless fantasy isn't it? Lots of loving couples dress up for each other, is that any different? Why should his employer get involved?

The media is implying that he is some kind of sexual predator bordering on pedophilia. Do you agree? Are teachers allowed to have sex?

This guys face is plastered all over the media and newspapers and he DIDN'T even go through with the meeting!! Fair?

Would like to hear your thoughts guys and gals.




posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 01:49 PM
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a reply to: Mister_Bit

Well before I even read the article, The fact that the guy wants the Prostitute to dress in a SCHOOL uniform , is a little Telling. If one jumps to conclusions. And that's probably how the School Board took it. Gonna read the article now, and post a new comment afterwards.

ETA: I just noticed that I missed it where You said He didn't even go through with the meeting...... oops! LOL! BRB.
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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 02:03 PM
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a reply to: Mister_Bit

Well, GB is not exactly known for it's freedom of expression nor tolerance. People getting arrested for talking on buses and for tweets does come to mind. What Orwellian 4th Reich are you all trying to accomplish over there...



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 02:17 PM
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I just saw this in the cornershop on an upside down tabloid.

My simple and honest opinion is that in todays climate you simply cannot expect to be a headmaster of a school, get caught sleeping with a prostitute dressed as a schoolgirl and expect to keep your job.

When entrusted with the welfare of children you must be prepared to take responsibility for your actions.

A friend of mine as a young teacher foolishly involved himself with a 17 year old student. End of teaching career there and then, even he does not deny it was the correct course of action.
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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: Mister_Bit

'One of them said: 'If I had kids I wouldn't want them going to that school to be honest.'
'What sort of family man is he? He should set an example.'
second article


So said the escort in the article. That's funny. She's cool with her kids having an escort mom though.

It's not even confirmed that he did this at all. Sent from his school email? Sounds fishy to me. Who knows, if it's true I expect somebody has a copy of the email somewhere and it's missing from the story.

Sadly this guy's reputation is probably hopelessly ruined now even if the allegations are false.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 03:20 PM
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In all honesty, people really should be more discreet with some things they do.

On the flip side, you can't expect everyone to wear a halo either. We are not our job, we do not eat, breath, and sleep at our job (We're not all living in China, for the love of all that is sane.).

The Catholic church is a perfect example of this, look at all the sex scandals with alter boys or any one else, for that matter.

I mean, prudish enforcement is going to make this world miserable for a vast majority of it's inhabitants. I mean, seriously, you can't expect people to not do stuff outside of work.

On the other note, better a consenting adult role-play, then for him to hook up with a minor. The moral outrage from people then would be unbelievable.

While on school time, tho, he should be.... professional, to the letter.
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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 03:26 PM
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a reply to: Mister_Bit
I've always thought the whole 'schoolgirl outfit fetish thing' a bit creepy though, I'm a bloke and apart from when I was a schoolboy myself I haven't ever wanted sex with a girl in school uniform. Don't get me wrong, short skirts, white translucent business type blouses, yep yep yep, all day, but fantasizing sex with a schoolgirl?
Nope, it says much about the person with the fantasy, even if you are with another consenting adult when you 'pretend' I wouldn't want such a bloke looking after any schoolgirl daughter of mine.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 03:27 PM
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It does kind of remind me of the old witch trials.

The media are hungry for blood after the saville case and any one is fair game it seems.

The problem I see is that if he went home and slept with his wife and his wife dressed up in a uniform, is that really any different?

If the answer is "..but the kids, the kids..." The school kids probably had no idea at all this happened other than when it was splashed all over the newspapers.

The other problem I have is how the media twist the facts to vilify some one, obviously to evoke emotional responses and sell papers but look at this example from that same story....

A headteacher was allegedly caught telling a prostitute he would like her to dress up in school uniform so he could spank her.

When in actual fact what is reported is this....

It is alleged that when one of the escorts sent him a message telling him she liked dressing up like a schoolgirl and being spanked he responded saying, 'I love this and would be keen.' Then the prostitute has the nerve to say his 'fetish' for spanking women in school uniform, as a headteacher, was scary.



So the escort actually instigated the schoolgirl idea, not him and yet he's the one being thrown to the dogs.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 03:30 PM
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originally posted by: Mister_Bit
The problem I see is that if he went home and slept with his wife and his wife dressed up in a uniform, is that really any different?
It's equally as creepy if you ask me. Schoolgirl uniform equals lust for a minor...creepy as #.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 03:32 PM
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originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: Mister_Bit
The problem I see is that if he went home and slept with his wife and his wife dressed up in a uniform, is that really any different?
It's equally as creepy if you ask me. Schoolgirl uniform equals lust for a minor...creepy as #.

Maybe, but if you think about it.. short skirt, tight white blouse (secretary look) add a tie..... well... I dunno.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 03:37 PM
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No maybe about it in my head, schoolgirl uniform 'roleplay' is about sex with a schoolgirl.
I've had roleplay with an ex who did the 'secretary look' but the premise was an adult working secretary, not a schoolgirl. Sorry, I've always thought it creepy, even between consenting adults, lusting over someone in roleplay as a schoolchild is creepy as #.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 03:41 PM
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originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: Mister_Bit
The problem I see is that if he went home and slept with his wife and his wife dressed up in a uniform, is that really any different?
It's equally as creepy if you ask me. Schoolgirl uniform equals lust for a minor...creepy as #.


Thee are "fetish" for anything you can imagine. It does not mean there is a lust for the real thing, in fact, some say that it is better to act out things with a consenting adult, then to let it fester, and end up doing the forbidden.

Does it mean that if you like Nurses or gals in scrubs, your going to engage in something at a hospital? probably not.

Women adore a man in uniform, be it police, military, or such. Men like nurses, etc. School-girl outfit is actually quite common in Japan, and Korea.

That is why it is a fantasy.. Reality and fantasy are two different things..
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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 03:46 PM
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originally posted by: Cygnis
Thee are "fetish" for anything you can imagine. It does not mean there is a lust for the real thing, in fact, some say that it is better to act out things with a consenting adult, then to let it fester, and end up doing the forbidden.
Your two lines somewhat contradict each other. If there was no lust for the 'forbidden' inspiring the role-play then there would be no risk of carrying out the forbidden.


Does it mean that if you like Nurses or gals in scrubs, your going to engage in something at a hospital? probably not.

Women adore a man in uniform, be it police, military, or such. Men like nurses, etc. School-girl outfit is actually quite common in Japan, and Korea.

Yep, it means I am attracted to adult nurses in uniform and would love to enjoy sex with one wearing her hot little dress and nothing else. If people fantasize about sex with girls in 'school' uniform then it is reasonable to assume that they have the same thoughts when they pass schoolgirls in the street.
That is creepy.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 03:48 PM
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originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: Mister_Bit
No maybe about it in my head, schoolgirl uniform 'roleplay' is about sex with a schoolgirl.
I've had roleplay with an ex who did the 'secretary look' but the premise was an adult working secretary, not a schoolgirl. Sorry, I've always thought it creepy, even between consenting adults, lusting over someone in roleplay as a schoolchild is creepy as #.


I'd have to respectfully disagree.

There would be others that would argue that a boss taking advantage of a woman at work is equally creepy... but it's not is it? It's harmless fun... You weren't actually thinking about forcing your will onto a work colleague.

I'm sure you're aware there are those that dress up in nappies (diapers) also.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 03:56 PM
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So what are we actually stating here?
If you had a teenage daughter would you be comfortable with the thought that say a 40 year old bloke would have sexual thoughts of her because she passed him while in her uniform?
The same bloke #ing his misses while she is in a schoolgirl uniform and imagining she is his naughty underage secret?
I think it's creepy, but if you don't then good luck with it, I assume my views are not popular here, but I personally think sexual attraction for a female dressed as a schoolgirl is creepy and says much about the persons inner desires.
You clearly view sexual desire of females assuming the role of schoolgirls as something to defend. I do not.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 03:58 PM
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I found out about the adult diaper fetish while researching how to sharpen cloth diaper pens! I had recently started using cloth diapers for my baby and was quite taken aback, because I hought it was a forum for moms, but it was was adult men.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 03:59 PM
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It almost seems as if she advertised this because he canceled. The police also set people up all the time. Things they would never actually do if the undercover didn't convince them it was agood idea.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:00 PM
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originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: Mister_Bit
So what are we actually stating here?
If you had a teenage daughter would you be comfortable with the thought that say a 40 year old bloke would have sexual thoughts of her because she passed him while in her uniform?
The same bloke #ing his misses while she is in a schoolgirl uniform and imagining she is his naughty underage secret?
I think it's creepy, but if you don't then good luck with it, I assume my views are not popular here, but I personally think sexual attraction for a female dressed as a schoolgirl is creepy and says much about the persons inner desires.
You clearly view sexual desire of females assuming the role of schoolgirls as something to defend. I do not.

I have no beef with you dude BUT...

When I see a woman dressed in an outfit I see a WOMAN. It never crosses my mind, not once.

To equate being turned on by a fully grown WOMAN in an outfit to pedophilia is just strange in my opinion.

I respect your view though, thanks.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:08 PM
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originally posted by: Mister_Bit
When I see a woman dressed in an outfit I see a WOMAN. It never crosses my mind, not once.

To equate being turned on by a fully grown WOMAN in an outfit to pedophilia is just strange in my opinion.
Not strange when the uniform is one of the the sexual triggers in the fantasy. Uniforms have context, the nurse dress is a working adult in the fantasy, The Wonder woman uniform is, well, Wonder woman, a schoolgirl uniform is a schoolgirl.
If you really don't understand my perspective then I can't really explain it in any simpler terms.
It is merely my opinion so it matters not.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:19 PM
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originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: Cygnis
Thee are "fetish" for anything you can imagine. It does not mean there is a lust for the real thing, in fact, some say that it is better to act out things with a consenting adult, then to let it fester, and end up doing the forbidden.
Your two lines somewhat contradict each other. If there was no lust for the 'forbidden' inspiring the role-play then there would be no risk of carrying out the forbidden.


Does it mean that if you like Nurses or gals in scrubs, your going to engage in something at a hospital? probably not.

Women adore a man in uniform, be it police, military, or such. Men like nurses, etc. School-girl outfit is actually quite common in Japan, and Korea.

Yep, it means I am attracted to adult nurses in uniform and would love to enjoy sex with one wearing her hot little dress and nothing else. If people fantasize about sex with girls in 'school' uniform then it is reasonable to assume that they have the same thoughts when they pass schoolgirls in the street.
That is creepy.


It's also creepy people fantasies about blowing up other people, or winning a million dollars.

It's also creepy people fantasies about ruling the whole world.

I'ts creepy people think that reality isn't what it is.




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