I understand that ATS has a sizable population of Masons. I am interested in the opinions of Masons on a wide range of issues discussed here. I am curious.

List of issues:

1. The Patriot Act I and II
2. The National ID card
3. Police State
4. The War on Terrorism
5. The War on Iraq
6. The NWO
7. The Shadow government
8. The Skull and Bones
9. 9/11 and whether it is a government conspiracy
11. Aliens and Government cover-up
12. Ancient Advanced(technologically equal or superior to us) civilizations
13. Extra sensory perception, psychism, levitation, telekinesis
14. End of the World prophecies
15. Climate changes (global warming, ice age)
16. God, angels, spirits, demons, devil

Your opinions do not have to detailed or in depth. A general summary of your thoughts would do.

Sorry IC but the nwo can go and kiss my sweet behind.

IF they mean good, they can still go and kiss my....

Why you may ask? because their intentions are evil! They are evil and ruthless people who will not stop at nothing.

By any means necssary does come into ones mind, but then thats what the nwo are all about, signs and lies.

I just hope nostromdamues or whatever his name is is right.

(Even if he is wrong, it does not matter. Humans always overcome the odds.!)

1. The Patriot Act I and II - Bad
2. The National ID card - Maybe
3. Police State - NO
4. The War on Terrorism - what terrorists?
5. The War on Iraq - Bad but happy Saddam gone
6. The NWO - who cares
7. The Shadow government - Not there
8. The Skull and Bones - pirates not a real problem anymore
9. 9/11 and whether it is a government conspiracy - no
11. Aliens and Government cover-up - no
12. Ancient Advanced(technologically equal or superior to us) civilizations - NO
13. Extra sensory perception, psychism, levitation, telekinesis - rubbish
14. End of the World prophecies - Nonsence
15. Climate changes (global warming, ice age) - Bit of a problem
16. God, angels, spirits, demons, devil - Not real

Hope I helped

merry christmas

Oi jamesuk.

Not number 16. I still belive!-LOL

Anyway, keep studying is what I hold too.

1. The Patriot Act I and II - Lovely
2. The National ID card - I'll have two
3. Police State - The people shall be ruled with an Iron Fist
4. The War on Terrorism - Win at all costs, except ours
5. The War on Iraq - Not bloody enough
6. The NWO - Allready a member - kneel
7. The Shadow government - the real one
8. The Skull and Bones - Over my front door
9. 9/11 and whether it is a government conspiracy - I beleive Bush utterly
11. Aliens and Government cover-up - Hogwash! nothing to see here
12. Ancient Advanced(technologically equal or superior to us) civilizations - where are their satellites?
13. Extra sensory perception, psychism, levitation, telekinesis - Hippie nonsense
14. End of the World prophecies - only for the hippies/lefties/pinkoes/welsh
15. Climate changes (global warming, ice age) - Good
16. God, angels, spirits, demons, devil - Church every Sunday
17. James - May he suffer the infernal machinations of Hells grim Tyrant. The lefty git.

Andy
Regular donor to the RSPCA

"Bill O'Reilly for President!"

Oi AA.

Not number 17, (and no 16, how boring but nice!)

Jokes aside, you a nwo member AA, well good on ya!

Have a good one for now and always.

Laterz!

what a list of questions, i see this going 100 different ways. Have fun

1. The Patriot Act I and II

Oppose the provisions that violate the First Amendment.

2. The National ID card

No opinion (yet!)

3. Police State

I'd fight them to the bloody end.

4. The War on Terrorism

Support it, but only in legitimate cases, not trumped up ones (i.e., Iraq).

5. The War on Iraq

Completely oppose.

6. The NWO

Don't believe in it.

7. The Shadow government

The real shadow government is a temporary conglomerate that exists solely for the purpose of instituting new elections and carrying out day to day business until elections, in the even that a terrorist act would eliminate the actual government (i.e, a bombing of the capitol Building during a congressional session, etc.).

8. The Skull and Bones

no opinion, just a college frat

9. 9/11 and whether it is a government conspiracy

I believed that it was al-Queda before they even announced it was.

11. Aliens and Government cover-up

There are probably other life forms somewhere out there, but I don't believe any have ever made it to earth.

12. Ancient Advanced(technologically equal or superior to us) civilizations

I don't believe it; archaeology can pretty much trace the development of society from Cro-Magnons to humans.

13. Extra sensory perception, psychism, levitation, telekinesis

E.S.P., psychism, and telekinesis, yes. Levitation, no.

14. End of the World prophecies

Mythology and paranoia.

15. Climate changes (global warming, ice age)

Protecting the environment is one of the most solemn duties bestowed upon us by the Creator.

16. God, angels, spirits, demons, devil

God, yes. Others, no.

1. The Patriot Act I and II

It violates our 1st Amendment rights and our god given natural born freedoms, therefore im against it.

2. The National ID card

Im not with it, but as long as I remain in this country I will have to adhear to it.

3. Police State

I'd fight to the death first.

4. The War on Terrorism

It's rubbish, the state of U.S. foreign policy will only piss off more nations and their people and create more terrorism toward the U.S. and its allies, its a tactic designed to fail.

5. The War on Iraq

It's good Sadam is gone, but we're not helping the people so truly we've failed.

6. The NWO

Does it matter?

7. The Shadow government

There will always be aspects of the government which lie and act in the shadows, deal with it or move.

8. The Skull and Bones

College Frat, in the big picture it really doesn't matter.

9. 9/11 and whether it is a government conspiracy

Fishy from the start.

11. Aliens and Government cover-up

It would be extremely arrogant and quite stupid for us to believe we are the only intelligent and even the most intelligent life forms in all of the universe. Did Aliens land here? Who knows for certain? But if they did of course the government would cover it up, or society would be turned upside down by the implications and chaos would begin.

12. Ancient Advanced(technologically equal or superior to us) civilizations

Very well possible.

13. Extra sensory perception, psychism, levitation, telekinesis

Yep, been there, done that.

14. End of the World prophecies

People of every culture around the world have been predicting the end of the world for thousands of years. Most of the dates they predicted came and past yet we are still here. Yes the world will end one day, as all things must, but we'll all probably be long dead by then so who cares. If its our time, its our time.

15. Climate changes (global warming, ice age)
Yeah, its happening cause we're #in up the environment.

16. God, angels, spirits, demons, devil
Yes, but not in the traditional religious sense such as the conotations of Christianity.

I have a question...... Why does it matter what masons think on this? I mean specifically masons? Any opinion that you will get will be THAT PERSONS opinion only. I am sure you will get many different opinions and each will be personal to each other. It will not reflect anything that masonry sets as ideals. I know masons that would give probably every possible answer for each question. This really should be in politics or general discussion areas and not secret societies.

Originally posted by JCMinJapan
I have a question...... Why does it matter what masons think on this? I mean specifically masons? Any opinion that you will get will be THAT PERSONS opinion only. I am sure you will get many different opinions and each will be personal to each other. It will not reflect anything that masonry sets as ideals. I know masons that would give probably every possible answer for each question. This really should be in politics or general discussion areas and not secret societies.

I presume that Indigo Child wants to know what kind of people freemasons actually are. Thus he will decide whether to believe what they tell about the freemasonry or not to believe.

[edit on 20-12-2004 by Agnis]

Sorry, accidentally added the same twice.

[edit on 20-12-2004 by Agnis]

1. The Patriot Act I and II - strongly oppose, goes agaist god's free will, and violates the first amendment of the constitution which is a masonic document
2. The National ID card - no opinion
3. Police State - with cameras, tracking devices, gps, satellites, isn't it already here?
4. The War on Terrorism - yes, but not iraq
5. The War on Iraq - strongly oppose
6. The NWO - this subject is blown way out of porpotion
7. The Shadow government - existists to some degree, as in bunkers, underground operations
8. The Skull and Bones - Yale collage fraternity
9. 9/11 and whether it is a government conspiracy - real shady
11. Aliens and Government cover-up - other life forms do exists, we are just one galaxy amoungst billions, have they come down yet, remains to be seen...
12. Ancient Advanced(technologically equal or superior to us) civilizations - no
13. Extra sensory perception, psychism, levitation, telekinesis - does exist , some people just have it, some tap into it, most can not
14. End of the World prophecies - been predicted so many times and have been wrong
15. Climate changes (global warming, ice age) - is happening slowly and will continue over time proved through science
16. God, angels, spirits, demons, devil - God is the supreme creator of the universe, rest of the list, well, lets just say strange phenomenons have occured in my life that can not be fully explained