Why do people keep acting like voting matters?

a reply to: agenda51

What do I have to lose?

Time, dignity, self respect, brain cells, & gasoline off the top of my head (& not in order of importance)

originally posted by: Eunuchorn
a reply to: agenda51



Time, dignity, self respect, brain cells, & gasoline off the top of my head (& not in order of importance)

you can make excuses all you want but in the end thats all they are

time...you waste more time on alternate reality every day
dignity, self respect.... you have none. If you did you would make excuses for being apathetic
brain cells....??????? not sure how pushing buttons on a screen kills brain cells
Gasoline.....Go for a walk, ride your bike if your worried about gas....carpool?


Not trying to attack you. I dont do that. I just dont have a lot of pity for people. This is not to say I am cold hearted. I just learned a long time ago that feeling sorry for myself never made things better in my life so I cut it out and chose to do something....anything...productive. Its a whole destructive vs productive behavior paradox that people seem to fall into. More and more people seem to be going the destructive route.

a reply to: agenda51

Having to choose a candidate or think about the system in any way is, without a doubt, more damaging to my brain cells than binge drinking.




You're right, I'm not worried about gas. On the contrary, I find it rather satisfying to know I'm doing my part in polluting the atmosphere every time I drive somewhere. The longer the ride the better!

Also, I don't need an excuse to not vote. You were the one asking what I had to lose.

Even if there was nothing to lose, I wouldn't vote, because I'm not a long term conditioned system addicted materialistic debt slave.

Ok, we're all debt slaves, but at least I don't support it with my vote.

a reply to: Eunuchorn

so thinking damages your brain cells??????

the rest of your post is just more self deception.

I always just laugh at how its so traumatic for people to go vote. look at the candidates...look at their history.....go vote for the one that is the closest to what your beliefs are. Itsnot that hard and does not require some massive self sacrifice. less time than it takes to read a film review and go see a movie.

a reply to: agenda51

Really? I have not done my research?

Ok, there are no working class party leaders, and no serious parties with a majority of working class politicians, in my country. I want to be represented by people who have lived a life like mine, and know the realities which affect regular people from first hand experience, not as an abstract. They have all lived pretty much free of real considerations.

I have done my research. Unfortunately, the only conclusion that I can come to, after paying careful attention since childhood to these matters, and looking into them in detail for many years, is that there are no acceptable candidate parties for leadership, owing to the reasons I laid out above. This is not a conclusion I come to lightly, since I know that it has major implications for the state of democracy in this country, and indeed any nation which features similarly disposed political establishments. However, just because I believe in democracy, does not mean that I can ignore the glaring failings of our system, nor the mechanisms which prevent us accessing solutions to those failings.

a reply to: TrueBrit

Sounds fine. Please understand I have no idea about british politics. Its going to be difficult for me to see where someone like yourself is coming in regards to party platforms as apposed to speaking with someone from america. our party system here sucks for the most part as it has been compromised by communists and socialists but there is always a worse candidate of the two....the lesser of two evils. local politics is very important ...voting for sheriffs and judges...county commissioners, school boards etc. etc. people here have this notion that going and voting only matters on federal positions and hardly know anything about local elections which is all very immature and silly.

originally posted by: agenda51
a reply to: Eunuchorn

look at the candidates...look at their history.....go vote for the one that is the closest to what your beliefs are.... less time than it takes to read a film review and go see a movie.

I believe the global economy needs to collapse, white collar society needs to end, that soda, coffee, & junk food shouldnt exist, that gasoline should not be used for any reason whatsoever, that modern civilization as we know it is evil, that human nature is evil, & our reality needs to end immediately.

Can you recommend me a good candidate?

Oh I almost forgot, I despise everything having to do with pop culture & the Entertainment/Sports industrial Complexes.

originally posted by: MrMaybeNot
The only reason I don't vote is there's nothing worth voting for. You guys let me know when "Change" shows up again.

change is coming all right... maybe not the change you want but change none the less.

a reply to: Eunuchorn

Hahhaha friend you make me smile everytime I see your posts and Avatar.

Keep on, a breath of fresh air!!

Businessmen will continue to exercise their will, svengali-like, over governments.

Same as it ever was.

My vote will change that?

a reply to: deadlyhope

You are absolutely right

They don't even need propaganda to sway the voters because now they have die bolt voting machines

They can just set whatever results they want, and they can make it look
Realistic too

a reply to: deadlyhope

In an election, by definition, someone always wins and someone always loses, that's the whole purpose of it. That being said, personally, I've never voted and I don't intent to do so for the rest of my life. My personal philosophy is that regardless who we vote for, "They -the ruling class- always win and we -the people- always lose". I believe that if I vote I only help validate and perpetuate the so called democracy.

It's idiotic the premise that if one doesn't vote then it's one's fault if things aren't going right. Then how am I supposed to feel if I vote and things aren't going right? By definition it's my fault things aren't going right because I voted the jerk into office.

a reply to: Vanux

Exactly, it's a catch 22. North Korea still votes! You'll just be killed if you don't vote for Kim Jung Un - So if they could opt to not show up, or they ended up showing up.. what's the difference ? ( Hint: There is none! )