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Is the Sun four days off center in the solar system?

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posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

you are basically trying to say the center of the earths orbit is not the sun but somewhere between the sun and earth because of the suns gravitational pull on the earth?

I forgot to ask, where then in the barycenter of the earth and sun located?

And does that location place the sun four days off center?




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posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:06 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

Yes, that is what I am saying. What does 4 days off center mean? Day is a measurement of time not length.
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posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:08 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
I forgot to ask, where then in the barycenter of the earth and sun located?

A fraction of an inch from the Sun's centre.


Covered in the link from Krazysh0t.



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:10 PM
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originally posted by: Entreri06

originally posted by: paradoxious

originally posted by: Entreri06
Nope it was definately Jesus... Definatly!

:p

Our gardener has been late before, but never 4 days late, and doesn't do anything related to yard illumination.


He's sand bagging. Probubally turning your sprinkler system to wine , while refusing to share as well.... Damn divine Mexicans :p


LMAORONTF!!!!!



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:10 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Entreri06

if you believe what you say is true.

Then you know of a place in the universe that is completely still, without any motion, from which we can observe the truth?


What would that have to do with the price of tea in china. Like I can't observe my watch while driving in my car??

What?!?



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:12 PM
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a reply to: peck420

It should also be mentioned that Earth's orbital eccentricity is 0.0167.


A value of 0 is a circular orbit, values between 0 and 1 form an elliptical orbit


This means that Earth's orbit is near almost circular.



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:12 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

how far can light travel in four days?

how far do solar winds travel in four days?

how far do cosmic rays travel in four days?

how far can you walk in four days?

how far does the earth travel in four days as it travels around the sun?

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posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:12 PM
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How many Venus years does it take Venus to go around the sun? How many Venus days does it take for Venus to revolve once on its axis?

Answer: God.



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:13 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: peck420

It should also be mentioned that Earth's orbital eccentricity is 0.0167.


A value of 0 is a circular orbit, values between 0 and 1 form an elliptical orbit


This means that Earth's orbit is near almost circular.


how many degrees beyond 360 degrees is this almost near perfect circle?



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:14 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: peck420

It should also be mentioned that Earth's orbital eccentricity is 0.0167.


A value of 0 is a circular orbit, values between 0 and 1 form an elliptical orbit


This means that Earth's orbit is near almost circular.


how many degrees beyond 360 degrees is this almost near perfect circle?
That's not how circles work.

I'm pretty certain OP is trolling.



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:16 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: peck420

It should also be mentioned that Earth's orbital eccentricity is 0.0167.


A value of 0 is a circular orbit, values between 0 and 1 form an elliptical orbit


This means that Earth's orbit is near almost circular.

Yup, I think CJ's confusion comes from looking at pictures, that are exaggerated for expediency and clarity, and assuming that they are reality.

Just like the barycentre of the Sun/Earth/Moon is actually 279 miles from the Sun's centre of mass, but in Solar inches (scaled to fit on human sized paper)...that is just 'a fraction of an inch'.




posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

Sigh

Ok then, what speed are we measuring 4 day's worth of travel at?



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:19 PM
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a reply to: peck420

sounds more like the elliptic orbit is based on something more than the suns gravitational pull.


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posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:19 PM
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Seriously though, if OP is NOT trolling, go back to elementary school. No insult, no hyperbole. Start over again. This is an unacceptable level of ignorance if true.



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:20 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Krazysh0t

how far can light travel in four days?


6.43791964 * 10^10 miles, but only if it is in a vacuum.


how far do solar winds travel in four days?


Depends on the velocity they are traveling at.


how far to cosmic rays travel in four days?


6.43791964 * 10^10 miles, but only if it is in a vacuum.


how far can you walk in four days?


Depends on my average velocity versus how many breaks I need to take.


how far does the earth travel in four days as it travels around the sun?


WELL that depends on where the earth is in its elliptical orbit. Kepler's laws say that as something is spinning, as it contracts in size, it will speed up; and conversely if it expands than it slows down (think of a figure skater pulling her arms and legs in as she spins on one foot). So the points where the elliptical orbit are closer to the center, it is traveling faster, and the points where it is further away it is traveling slower. So to answer your question above, it depends on the time of the year.

In other words, stop trying to make a day into a unit of length when it is a unit of time. I don't try to make Newtons into a unit of time when it is clearly a unit of force.
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posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:22 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: peck420

It should also be mentioned that Earth's orbital eccentricity is 0.0167.


A value of 0 is a circular orbit, values between 0 and 1 form an elliptical orbit


This means that Earth's orbit is near almost circular.


how many degrees beyond 360 degrees is this almost near perfect circle?


What the? I don't even... Did you fail Trigonometry? Because you must have for saying a statement like this.



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:35 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t
An elliptic has 360 but to travel a circle takes less time to travel than the elliptic oval or egg. this time is approximately equal to four days if we are discussing the earths orbit. there by placing the sun off center by four days. the center here is based time traveled not location.

This is why I was asking the leading question to which no one has tried to explain.

BTW you should put a perfect vacuum as we now know the universe is not a perfect vacuum.

Actually your last post helped me understand the statement I read by a scientist who said the sun was off center by four days. It was in old article I found in my Late father belongings. he had it clipped and placed in a Bible with Gen1 written next to it.

I now also see why the earth sometimes travels 364.69 or to a maximum of 365.25 as it would depend onthe leading edge per se of the earth as it travels through the system. Seeing the earth is shaped like an egg more than a circle, if the larger side is facing forward then it slows down the time of travel and if the smaller side is facing it moves faster. not to mention the up and down back and forth wobble it also has.

to help clarify, a perfect circle has the same distance between degree points of a 360 dgree circle, but in an elliptic some of the points are larger and some are smaller. the actual measurement of those points would very of course depending on the length and width of the elliptic.


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posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:39 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Krazysh0t
An elliptic has 360 but to travel a circle takes less time to travel than the elliptic. this time is approximately equal to four days if we are discussing the earths orbit. there by placing the sun off center by four days. the center here is based time traveled not location.
An elliptical orbit and a circular orbit whose mean distance was equal would have an equal travel time.



This is why I was asking the leading question to which no one has tried to explain.
It wasn't a leading question, it was a nonsensical one.


Actually your last post helped me understand the statement I read by a scientist who said the sun was off center by four days. It was in old article I found in my Late father belongings. he had it clipped and placed in a Bible with Gen1 written next to it.
Are you sure you're not thinking of the plot to that Tomb Raider movie?



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:41 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

There are 360 degrees in an Ellipse. Did that really need to be said?



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:42 PM
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a reply to: AshOnMyTomatoes


so bent light waves still travel the distance as straight on light waves?




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