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Is the Sun four days off center in the solar system?

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posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 02:32 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: AshOnMyTomatoes

all depends on your pinion of them. If you believe that then it is your belief, but others believe not as you.

notice now how belief comes into the picture so gracefully isn't that just bizarre.

because the whole idea of creationism and evolutionary theory, eh er hypothesis, all are based on what one believes.



No science/evolution is based on testable repeatable facts. Belief had nothing to do with science. It's like math. No matter how much you believe 1+1=3 it's not true....


You just get sillier and sillier




posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 02:32 PM
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here is a 2 dimensional diagram, now is the sun off center to the earths orbit?



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posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 02:35 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: AshOnMyTomatoes

the ellipsis of the earth puts the sun off center in its orbit by four days. So instead of a 360 day year we have a 364 point blah blah blah day year. roughly a little over a four day difference.


But where are you deriving the 360 day year from? What is your source? Citation? Or are you simply deducting the 4 days you hypothesize are extra due to the creation story from our current callender? If that's the case you're still incorrect as 1 Earth year is ~365.25 days long



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 02:36 PM
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a reply to: Entreri06

if you believe what you say is true.

Then you know of a place in the universe that is completely still, without any motion, from which we can observe the truth?



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 02:39 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn
Do the Sun and Earth have equal mass?

Do the Sun or Earth have no mass?

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posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 02:40 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

Since that diagram isn't drawn to scale, it doesn't illuminate much in regards to earth's orbit. You are correct that the sun isn't the center of earth's orbits. The sun is one the focal points of the elliptical orbit though. Your diagram is heavily skewed to illuminate the elliptical orbit. It isn't nearly that elliptical in reality though.



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
So is the sun off center?

I say yes and the approximate time it is off center is on September 20–23.



I'm curious, what is the basis for your reasoning on this?



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 02:45 PM
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Have we completely ignored my post about the relationship (and lack thereof) between an earth day and an earth year?

Here
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posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 02:45 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
one more thing all diagrams of our solar system have the planets all on the same orbital level. this is not true the planets are not one the same orbital level some a slightly higher and some lower and occasionally some of them cross others path.
And the Solar System transgresses both above and below the median Galactic plane of existence.



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 02:46 PM
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from what Scientist know the earth fluctuates between 364.69 and 365.25 that is recorded fact the reference is just about another day but not quite ergo the additional of an additional day to even out the sortum. I chose the lower daily equation. The only reason the 365.25 was settled on is because if they went by the lower number a whole lot of mathematical time quantum figures would not add up correctly.

It is one of those "the majority agrees" rules, much like "global warming is man made".



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 02:46 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ChesterJohn

Since that diagram isn't drawn to scale, it doesn't illuminate much in regards to earth's orbit. You are correct that the sun isn't the center of earth's orbits. The sun is one the focal points of the elliptical orbit though. Your diagram is heavily skewed to illuminate the elliptical orbit. It isn't nearly that elliptical in reality though.
Maybe should interject the Lagrange points?



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 02:48 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
from what Scientist know the earth fluctuates between 364.69 and 365.25 that is recorded fact the reference is just about another day but not quite ergo the additional of an additional day to even out the sortum.
This sentence means nothing.



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Ah you raise the question of does the elliptic orbit the earth widen and narrow at time? yes it does and it rises and lowers to the the galactic plain.

We would really have to go outside our solar system and possibly outside the universe and establish a place of complete stillness in order to observe the whole revolution and there of for many millennia before we could establish a fact as to why the sun is not the center of the earthly orbit.



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 02:52 PM
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a reply to: paradoxious

now we are getting into fourth and possibly fifth dimensional quantum's here.



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Ah you raise the question of does the elliptic orbit the earth widen and narrow at time? yes it does and it rises and lowers to the the galactic plain.

We would really have to go outside our solar system and possibly outside the universe and establish a place of complete stillness in order to observe the whole revolution and there of for many millennia before we could establish a fact as to why the sun is not the center of the earthly orbit.
So this is a thread where we just meander from point to point and you don't actually listen to anything unless it's something that scientists don't say?



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 02:54 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: paradoxious

now we are getting into fourth and possibly fifth dimensional quantum's here.


Your statement is nonsensical. Not surprising, given your performance in this thread so far.



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 02:55 PM
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originally posted by: GetHyped

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: paradoxious

now we are getting into fourth and possibly fifth dimensional quantum's here.


Your statement is nonsensical. Not surprising, given your performance in this thread so far.
Yeah. Bored now. Thanks for wasting my time, OP.



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 02:57 PM
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a reply to: GetHyped

not according to Lagrange points



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:00 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

Please read this link:

spaceplace.nasa.gov...



posted on Mar, 16 2015 @ 03:03 PM
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originally posted by: Entreri06

originally posted by: paradoxious

originally posted by: Entreri06
Nope it was definately Jesus... Definatly!

:p

Our gardener has been late before, but never 4 days late, and doesn't do anything related to yard illumination.


He's sand bagging. Probubally turning your sprinkler system to wine , while refusing to share as well.... Damn divine Mexicans :p
I highly doubt the sandbagging anything. Even though, according to him, everything he does is above ground, we've had no floods recently.



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