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originally posted by: MrSpad
This is pretty much just PR move. Primary activty in the Black Sea from NATO would be to defend its coast lines in Turkey, Rumania and Bulgaria while keeping the Russian fleet trapped. And if NATO thought these things were a threat a TLAM strike would end it. Coastal defense batteries/missles are of some use against a foe outside of the US/UK/France but, when you have a much much further strike capability they become nothing but targets.
originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: JiggyPotamus
Sure it is a game changer, because it is a new approach to an old target.
The score will be aircraft carrier 0, barrage of missiles 1.
It's the modern story of aircraft against battleships.
Then, the aircraft came from without the domain of battleship so it could not respond in kind.
Same with an aircraft carrier these days to a barrage of missiles. The button, well out of range, was pushed to launch them as the carrier's pilots were donning their gear. I essence, there is no one-on-one game in town anymore.
originally posted by: victor7
TLAMs won't work well against the Russian defenses. Batteries of Yakhont and Oniks will be protected by the Tor and Pantsirs point defense goodies.
TLAMs are NOT stealthy and are subsonic. JASSM are semi stealth but sub sonic. This means the last 10 miles to the target will take good 1 minute i.e. 60 seconds of time.
The Infra Red seeker of the Tor and Pantsirs missile will have more than enough time to destroy the incoming queens. Each TLAM costs good $500K and JASSMs from 1 to 1.3 million. It might be a bad mathematics to go after Bastions with TLAMs and cousins.
F-22s or hypersonic fully stealth missiles might have more efficiency ratings. As on street basis as of yet, Russians do not have answer to tracking and destroying stealthy deals.
Btw, one reputed Australian source conducted a study of Yakhonts vrs USN Aircraft Carrier group. One to one, Yakhonts will be shot down but a swarm of 24-36 will have few get through and hit targets in the carrier group. These missiles also do not come cheap and are at half million a piece and have a range of upto 300kms only. So will USN AC group be firing TLAMs from 500 kms outward and try to play the "deeper pockets" mathematics?
Cruise missiles can easily come in under the radar and strike anything.
Just the nearly ancient tomahawk can run nap of the earth radar evasion routes.
That is why you saturation bomb one erea, then kill their countermeasures during reload.
originally posted by: johnwick
Carrier based operations can and will easily be conducted from outside the systems range.
Not to mention it is guarded by AEGIS, and one of the best Defensive systems ever devised by man.
And now to top it off is testing the new solid state laser kill system.
Hi mach anti ship missiles are fast, light is still much faster, like the Missiles are standing still.
Confirmed kill at over a mile, cut right through a carbody and engine block like a hot knife through butter.