Over the last few months I have had the pleasure of trying out a couple of optics that have surprised me both in quality and price. I firmly believe
that, like firearms, there is a huge difference between CHEAP and AFFORDABLE.
In this post I will cover two optics solutions that cover the most basic needs of the shooter without having to drop the kind of cash demanded by
brands EOTech and Trijicon ACOG.
First in line is a rifle scope.
The Vortex Crossfire II 1-4x24 rifle scope is an entry level 4 power scope designed for use on tactical rifles. Vortex does make higher end scopes and
red dot sights for far more money, but their lower end Crossfire line is still excellent.
This scope is rated to be able to handle the recoil forces up to .458 SOCOM which means that your scope will work just fine on your AR or AK type
rifle without loosing zero. I can attest to the quality of the the scope having recently mounted one on my AK47:
It has 1/2 MOA adjustment turrets, v-plex reticle(graduated crosshair), however it is not illuminated. The illuminated version is the Crossfire II
with V-Brite reticle(Illuminated graduated crosshair). I have not tested the V-Brite reticle version but other reviews have surfaced that give this
style of scope 4-5 out of a possible 5 stars and it is in the same price range. $150-200. They can be found on sale in various online stores for less
from time to time. If you're looking for quality glass but don't have Leupold level cash, this is the best out there.
Second up is the red dot line. There are many budget red dots out there from Barska to Burris but they tend to have low tolerance to recoil forces.
Recently I had the chance to pick up the Lucid HD7 Gen 3 variable reticle red dot sight from Lucid Optics.
This optic has worked very well on my RAS47 AKM pattern rifle. I bought mine for $160 including shipping. They can range anywhere from $150 to $300
new. They are built from aircraft aluminum and chemical rubber armored. Like the Crossfire II they are also rated up to .458 SOCOM, 1/2 MOA adjustment
turrets. They take one AAA battery with 1000 hour life. It has an automatic brightness adjustment sensor which is incredibly responsive as well as
manual brightness adjustment controls. 4 different reticles give you options on what kind of shooting you'll be doing. The battery compartment and
turret caps are tethered and it is waterproof. It holds zero extremely well and the adjustments are accurate as far as I can tell.
Overall not bad. The Lucid HD7 Gen 3 is a feature rich modern optic that is priced well within reasonable parameters.
As always, Happy and Safe shooting!
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Primary arms micro dots are among the few that co-witness on the lower 1/3 which is necessary for AK co-witness set up for the irons. The others are
the Trijicon RMR, the Burris Fastfire line, and Lucid Optics M7.
A Vortex optic is the epitome of value, and it's always the first kind I recommend. I'm running the Sparc 2 on my AR, and I would most definitely
trust this optic with my life if it ever came down to it. I can't find or even think of a reason why this optic couldn't be used by military and
law enforcement. I haven't used any of their magnified scopes yet, but that will probably be my next purchase.
Sight mark also makes great optics, but it all comes down to the battery system. I had one of the "ultra shot" models that runs on 3 AG5 batteries
that never fit tight enough in the compartment. Never had a solid connection no matter how much I tried to rig it just to get it to stay on. The
less expensive, Dual Shot, actually worked perfectly, and it was mounted on an AK47. Ran on 2032 battery, dot size was very small and very bright,
and it held zero for several hundred rounds. Only problem with that model is the open lens design.
With affordable optics, the simplest things can make all the difference.
Good thread. Straying a bit here with some open thoughts ... primarily to bump.
When I'm looking at an optic I'm trying to enhance the effectiveness of the overall system ... or extend range for accuracy beyond natural human
Choosing a red dot came down to weight, profile, reticle, parallax, and power efficiency. I disregarded magnification, feeling if I needed that for
any application another weapon system would be more appropriate. Because I save continuously, cost was not an issue considered. So this may be
outside the OP boundaries, but openly stated to be fair and as impartial as possible. Additionally, I had to take into consideration the optic's
interoperability with night vision capabilities.
For extreme range applications, I did a lot of research, and picked out a $3K scope you can find reviewed on the Precision Rifle Blog. A little
Google effort helped me find that same scope for $2K. I took some serious ribbing from my shooting group, but by the end of the day everyone was
checking their wallets for spare change.
Thanks for this thread. Made my day finding it. -Cheers
I don't know what the budget is, I have a Burris MTAC 1x4x24 with the fastfire ll red dot on top. I paid $540 for this combo, it has been one of the
best scopes I've ever had. I have it on my ar15 shorty (M4 look) I have a bump stock on this one so I do go through ammo and its still dead on. I
use sportoptics.com. I have compared prices with them and Gander mountain and they beat'em by $75
The best cheap optics are older made in Japan optics. Hakko was the factory and they made great....GREAT glass. I have a 500 dollar Bushnell 4200
tactical elite 6-24x50 scope made in Japan and it is as nice as my mark4.
Never......NEVER buy anything made in China it will not last. ncstar and Barska are crap save your money. Truth be told save your money and buy an
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Yep me too.....I have owned Barska.....Ncstar.....New model Tasco scopes and they all broke apart at the range.
Now I run.....Bushnell 4200 tactical elite made in Japan......Leupold mark4 CQ/T.....Trijicon with Insight MRDS. Also never buy cheap mounts and
bases. Cheap rings can damage your optic. Nightforce.....Seekins....Badger....US Optics...A.R.M.S are all good ring makers.
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Those five brands you named might be out of the budget range for many. That's why I've always considered terms defining cost quite subjective.
Dropping $2K on a scope, in a class where the upper end tops $15K, is what I consider 'budget' shopping.
That said, there's hardly any equipment on the market which is a satisfactory substitute for skill and practice. Those get you good ... while optics
can make you more precise.
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