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Rumor: Putin Has Been Neutralized by a "Stealthy Coup" - Opening Post Updated 9x - Putin Found

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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 04:59 AM
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originally posted by: SkepticOverlord

5) He was in hiding from assassination rumors.



Honestly, this theory might make the most sense. Possibly the West inserted counterintelligence in to Putins intelligence agencies that a coup was being planned and in action. Just to test Putin's security and watch what plans he puts in place. It could explain the recent disappearance and might have been why Putin's rival was killed. The counterintelligence backfired and got a western friendly figure killed.

Just a thought.
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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 05:19 AM
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originally posted by: SkepticOverlord

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
SkepticOverlord do the right thing and move this to the Hoax Bin.

No.

This is/was a real story.

Twitter, and to some extent Facebook, Instagram, and SnapChat were "lit up" with this topic. Twitter alone was seeing over 10,000 unique tweets (not retweets) an hour at one point.

The "Twitter Storm" was real, and often fueled by real reports of a coup, which has been anticipated for some time, which was discussed here on ATS, and mentioned by Stratfor just days ago.

This thread wasn't using Twitter as the source of breaking political news; breaking political news was happening on twitter, and being commented on in real time. There's an important distinction.

For those with aversion to social media, this is going to be difficult, if not impossible to embrace: it is now one of the primary information sharing methods for average people. The evolution toward that has been happening for about three years, and continues now.

These were mostly real events, happening in the world, being shared by concerned people. The fact that some of it was wrong, some of it exaggerated, some of it breathless, and some of it contrived does not make it less of a story. And in fact, on the whole, is no different from the mainstream media's wrong, exaggerated, breathless, and contrived reporting on 9/11/2001.


I agree with this statement but this is what scares me the most. We live in an age where politicians are reactionary rather than visionary. We see this everyday in the West.....something happens, there is a social media "buzz" and then we get politicians commenting (as well as the general public) and we have evidence of this shaping public opinion and, occasionally, policy.

So therefore shouldn't social media be used more responsibly? By this i mean that some things we should be more circumspect about. For example, when something has the potential to escalate into war, we should wait for some facts or actually search for some facts before the speculation begins..........unless it is made entirely clear that it is simply speculation in the first place.

Basically, a bit of personal responsibility needs to be shown. We can get carried away on ATS but i certainly don't think this site is the worst (by any means) for this problem.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 05:30 AM
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a reply to: thepixelpusher

Or their was in internal power struggle from within Putins own ranks and Putin was not sure who was behind the push. He was out of the light for almost 11 days and thus far there has been no valid reason for that absence. The fact it came on the heels of Nemtsov assassination just adds fuel to the fire.

The clumsy way his spokesperson handled, actually muddled thru, speaks volumes. Everything Putin does is based on image and perception and by extension those who handle his image are well informed - except in this instance where they acted absolutely lost and unprepared to handle the situation.


Something has occurred / still is occurring behind the scenes. The fact they relied on an illness to explain away his absence supports that.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 05:53 AM
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a reply to: voiceofthecielago

What would you think "my country" is?
Just stop, stay on topic, or just stop.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 05:53 AM
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a reply to: Flavian
While waiting for facts may be all well and good, at this point and time i to have to wonder just exactly what we would believe anymore as stated facts.

Clearly the MSM has lost most of its competency, not to mention the trust of anyone with a brain. This thread in itself have shown there is much scorn of the social media unless of course it is suiting ones opinion or train of thought. One must also weed through all the innuendo presented not to mention dig dig dig for a kernel of truth from the social media. Seems we have basically backed ourselves right into a catch 22 corner.

As I don't wish to thread drift here, I still think we should be listening a little closer to those that are closer to the situation. Face it, many of us will admit we think our country has gone to **** in the proverbial hand basket with the leaders we have in their current power positions. Not to mention Someone voted for them. I honestly can't blame folks from other parts of the world thinking we have clearly lost our minds here. I think it myself and I live here. I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad.

I mentioned earlier in the thread that I thought Poland my be a good place to look for hints of what may truly be going on. Any of those countries that can only do their best to defend themselves, I would think would have a much clearer picture.

A lot can happen in 10 days. Who else has been missing? Perhaps this all something to do more with money, ie., BRICKS coming into play. Maybe we should be looking for missing bankers. After all the usual rule of thumb is to follow the money yes? I would myself, but that level of people really aren't my expertise. I really know nothing of those players. Perhaps some of the finer minds of our members that do play in the ring can find something of interest.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 05:58 AM
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a reply to: onehuman

Cross-reading and finding intersecting sets, the things all sides of the propaganda machineries agree on, got the best shot at being the truth. Everything else is speculation and opinion.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 06:21 AM
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You might find this interesting:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

ABC was busted for showing an OLD clip of Putin in St. Petersburg, using the tag line that he's back after 10 days of absence!

Thanks to Noeltrotsky, he just made this more interesting.

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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 06:21 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra


The fact they relied on an illness to explain away his absence supports that.


Or he was just ill. The man is 62 years old, he is no spring chicken. My 60 year old uncle can barely make it out of bed for a week when he gets the flu.

Saying the illness supports your theory is an illogical stretch.
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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 06:27 AM
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a reply to: thepixelpusher

Assassination attempts tend to be inside jobs or a lone/small group of disgruntled people. If and its a huge if Putin was to be assassinated it would in all likelyhood be by people that had access to his inner circle. The CIA has nowhere near the capabilities required to undertake the Assassination of Putin . Heck the CIA couldn't even rid Iraq of Saddam in the years after the first Gulf War little alone contemplate taking out Putin.

In the event the CIA or another western intel agency did manage to take out Putin the outcome would favor the Chinese and not NATO countries. Amiss the second Russian Civil War the Chinese would occupy Siberia under the guise of a peace keeping force.


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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 06:29 AM
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originally posted by: texasgirl
You might find this interesting:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

ABC was busted for showing an OLD clip of Putin in St. Petersburg, using the tag line that he's back after 10 days of absence!

Thanks to Noeltrotsky, he just made this more interesting.


Yup seems there is still something fishy going on. Sure some news outlets get lazy and us stock footage. But the video marks it as current not past footage. That's a big "whoops".



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 06:40 AM
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Putin and Russian Media are downplaying the events of the past several days, he/they are in full damage control mode, passing out old videos as if they are recent. See the other thread on this: ABC exposed using OLD Putin video to Claim Putin has Returned - a good reason not to sit back on your laurels and wait to be spoonfed "news" from "official sources." Social media in this case provided the best access to breaking news and the events as they unfolded inside the Kremlin, especially given the vast volume of comments being made.

That said, Putin may have survived the 'coup,' but not all of his inner circle has. Still missing (and presumed dead): Gen. Zolotov, it will be interesting to see how Russian MSM and the Kremlin handle his missing - more canned footage of Zolotov? A retirement ceremony with an actor playing the general? Who knows.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 06:45 AM
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It's true that ABC recycled some footage, however, the footage from Monday was not the footage that was recycled. So it still stands that he's back for now I think.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 07:02 AM
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a reply to: Blackmarketeer

Yup I don't think we can sit back on this one. We should go in to full data back-up and double check mode. I know a good many already have. Screen shots, dates and anything else they might change later or try to write off. Does not matter which side they are backing or which media outlet it is as long as they are covering part of it or saying they are. We should be going over them with a fine tooth comb.

If the US has any part of this (if he is dead and a cop' is happened) I'm betting we didn't send anything over, but are blocking the media from reporting on it as a favor to the new power, so nothing get in their way. This way they kind of own the US a favor, without us really putting anything at risk.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 07:30 AM
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originally posted by: Blackmarketeer
Putin and Russian Media are downplaying the events of the past several days, he/they are in full damage control mode, passing out old videos as if they are recent. See the other thread on this: ABC exposed using OLD Putin video to Claim Putin has Returned - a good reason not to sit back on your laurels and wait to be spoonfed "news" from "official sources." Social media in this case provided the best access to breaking news and the events as they unfolded inside the Kremlin, especially given the vast volume of comments being made.

That said, Putin may have survived the 'coup,' but not all of his inner circle has. Still missing (and presumed dead): Gen. Zolotov, it will be interesting to see how Russian MSM and the Kremlin handle his missing - more canned footage of Zolotov? A retirement ceremony with an actor playing the general? Who knows.

We seldom see things the same way, but this is one of those times. There is much more to this story than many want to admit.
Excellent post.


And.... KUDOS to SO for not only starting the thread, but sticking with it and not giving in to the popular opinion that this is a hoax.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 07:50 AM
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Still nothing on Putin's official twitter feed since the 6th. Very strange there are no updates about the "re-appearance" or any new photos of him meeting with anyone.

There were more meetings scheduled this week for him....is he making them or have they been cancelled?



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 08:00 AM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

That is odd that they didn't post photos of his last meeting. It was reported as public.

His Twitter

If you look at his twitter account it has a pattern to it. All pubic meets have photos attached to them, some times more then one. Why wouldn't the current one as a photo as well. It's out of character for his twitter activity.



posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 08:22 AM
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Russin News

Ok did some poking around thought I'd look in to all major news outlets for Russia. If you loo at the link it has a twitter post on it from the meeting. Now here is the odd part. Why would one have the photo and the other not. Also looked up.

Almazbek Atambayev Twitter

You'll see the photo they linked to isn't there. The post is gone and the photo.

His last twitter post translate "Do not believe it , but I had the flu . As it is now going to a meeting with Vladimir Putin ? I do not want to infect it." if you wanted to know.
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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 08:22 AM
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Here's one for you. So the Kremlin's official site is claiming this:



Vladimir Putin is chairing the 36th meeting of the Russian Victory Organising Committee at the Grand Kremlin Palace. Great Patriotic War veterans and heads of veteran and youth public organisations have been invited to attend.


Source

With this being one of the pics from this meeting that was supposed to have occurred today, March 17th.



But a simple image search shows this image from 2014 from a different meeting:



Source

Now, I can understand if he happened to wear something similar, but everything is exactly the same except his tie appears to be a bit different in that the spots seem larger on it in one of the pics which I am attributing to the filter that was used making the spots seem brighter on one pic. What is odd is that EVERYTHING else is the same, down to the bend in the microphone, the flag behind him, the paper he is holding, etc....now what are the chances of that happening in what are supposed to be two different pics from 2 different meetings in two different years?

Even the bulge in his coat above his right shoulder is almost identical in the pics, though one was obviously taken before the other.....

Yet again, Russian media using old pics of Putin for some reason?


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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 08:29 AM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

There are actually a couple difference in the pictures. First off his expression, second, if you look under his left arm in the bottom picture there is more space under his armpit basically, his thumb on right hand in second picture is not shown as it is in first picture and also the left hand are positioned a tad different as well. I haven't checkout the rest of what you have posted yet, but these are the differences I see as far as the pictures go.

The angle of his face to the camera is different and it also seems a tad fuller in first picture


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posted on Mar, 17 2015 @ 08:30 AM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

This whole debacle is getting more and more convoluted, it seems. With every news report that comes out of Putin's engagements and meetings, there seems to be fast evidence that it's old footage. What is really happening at the Kremlin?



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