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California ... About One Year of Water Left

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posted on Mar, 13 2015 @ 03:29 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

It is difficult for advocates of personal liberty and economic freedom to convey just how much we care about the best interests of everybody.

We do, I do. Across history there is abundant evidence supporting my claim whereas there is little or no evidence supporting the socialist plan.

The best attack socialists have has always been and remains ad hominem.




posted on Mar, 13 2015 @ 03:35 PM
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a reply to: jtrenthacker

The californians are more interested in spending billions of dollars to pay for every single aspect of illegal aliens' lives.

If the illegals were deported (like they are supposed to be by law) then you would have millions less people using the water.

Please tell me how the lawful deportation of millions of illegal aliens would be bad for the water supply situation.

Even just deporting the ones in california's prison system would free up billions to tackle the water situation.



posted on Mar, 13 2015 @ 03:39 PM
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a reply to: FalcoFan

Why don't we just deny prisoners in general water then?

They don't deserve it right? They are just dirty criminals anyway.



posted on Mar, 13 2015 @ 03:43 PM
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a reply to: FalcoFan

So by that you are claiming it is an overpopulation issue.


You may be correct, but there are a lot of conservatives that claim population is not an issue.



posted on Mar, 13 2015 @ 03:45 PM
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originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: mOjOm

This is more environmental catastrophism, distilling enough water is completely feasible. I believe it works out to about $1 per gallon.

The aquifers are being run out and that is bad but, not the end of the world. I am more concerned with whether the emptied cavities will remain structurally sound. Perhaps they can be used as reservoirs for distilled sea water.


No that would involve injecting water into them and that would likely be too much like fracking or something for the ecoweenies.



posted on Mar, 13 2015 @ 03:45 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

I have no pity for rapists and murderers-the fact that they are still allowed to breathe is an immense failure imo.



posted on Mar, 13 2015 @ 03:46 PM
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a reply to: FalcoFan

Illegals aren't using up all the water. The water is being used mostly by agriculture and antiquated traditional farming methods like flood irrigation. Then you have the problem of bad management of the water supply as well and too damn many people. Waste is a huge problem too.

But whether or not illegals are here or not the farms and cattle would still be using the water. It's also not a problem you can just throw money at to fix. It can fix some things but nature doesn't exactly have a purchase window where you can simply buy more rain and snow pack. If it's not there it's just not there.

Recently the energy industry has been caught polluting huge groundwater reserves as well by illegal dumping of toxins too. That makes matters even worse because even some of the reserve water that is there is now unusable because they wanted to save a buck rather than proper disposal. Problem is they forget how much food is produced here. Cali is much more than people realize. It's not all Surfer Beach Bums and Hollywood Desert Property. It's far more diverse than a lot of people think.



posted on Mar, 13 2015 @ 03:48 PM
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You know ... maybe California shouldn't have gotten so busy destroying all those dams? Maybe they were there for a reason.

This is what happens when you build major cities in an arid climate, insist on having lush, green lawns and overpopulate.

If you need water, perhaps you should ask all those super-wealthy movie stars why they still have their nice lawns and green, green golf courses.



posted on Mar, 13 2015 @ 03:49 PM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: greencmp

I have trouble detecting what is sarcasm and what is not sometimes. Part of it is because it's written rather than spoken. Part of it is the fact that some people really aren't being sarcastic when they some crazy stuff.

ATS needs to make a sarcasm post button or something that identifies those posts for people like me that have a hard time knowing the difference. It happens in reverse too where people think I'm being serious when I'm not. It creates problems sometimes. Emoticons help sometimes but even then it's hard to tell the difference sometimes.


most of the boards and comments sections i frequent simply use the /s at the end of a comment to denote sarcasm. Simple and quick and avoids confusion. I always thought people knew that it's been around since BBS's.



posted on Mar, 13 2015 @ 03:49 PM
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a reply to: FalcoFan

Guess you are not a fan of the fifth amendment then.

And I do hope you realize that our prison system is more then just and murders.

California has an issue of illegals, hardly the main source of this issue, they didn't cause this drought.



posted on Mar, 13 2015 @ 03:53 PM
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If you need water, perhaps you should ask all those super-wealthy movie stars why they still have their nice lawns and green, green golf courses.


I remember a thread a while back on this sort of idea. OP and many seemed to agree with the sentiment of "my money, if I pay for the water then I can use it how I want"

I agree with the question you are asking though, shoot golf courses take a good amount of water to keep in pristine condition.
As well as the stance many of those actors take in the issue.

So is it just an ironic question or would you like to see them forced to use less even though they pay for the water?



posted on Mar, 13 2015 @ 03:55 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

Don't you know, it is a tradition with some to blame immigrants for everything.


It doesn't matter if it makes sense they are just too easy to use as a scapegoat.



posted on Mar, 13 2015 @ 03:57 PM
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You can build a desalinization plant for between $100-$400 million... depending on size and other variables and issues.

I always have thought that these plants are good bargains. All that ocean water we have. Build a few of these plants in every coastal state, every year. Problem solved. for all of us.
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posted on Mar, 13 2015 @ 04:02 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
If you need water, perhaps you should ask all those super-wealthy movie stars why they still have their nice lawns and green, green golf courses.


Some of are, believe me. More than once I've taken upon myself to get nasty with some of these big businesses who have broken sprinklers shooting gallons of water on to their parking lots day after day.

They look surprised when they see me getting pissed at them for their sprinklers, but when everyone else is facing fines for watering on the wrong day and rationing water and I see these guys just dumping water on to the blacktop without a care in the world I can get a little upset.

Lawns are starting to go away to some degree and people are using smarter methods for landscaping in some places. But it may be too little too late. It's hard to tell at this point. So much is just wasted and mismanaged though.

Or like someone else said earlier about the bullet train BS which is nothing but a multi billion dollar screw job, it's another problem of mismanaging priorities and corruption which is a problem as well.



posted on Mar, 13 2015 @ 04:02 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

Actually, the "my money, if I pay for the water then I can use it how I want" ...

is both Humorous-n-Sad to me.

"Money" does have a Huge-Influence with regards to Influencing-Folks-Habits.

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OPINION:

Sadly: If 'water' gets to be expensive enough ...
only those with money will/can remain.


(humorously: i.e. money-folks would also have to become...labor-folks)
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posted on Mar, 13 2015 @ 04:04 PM
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Might as well just flood Death Valley with sea water(siphon driven pipelines would be sufficient. While the lake that would be created would still be salty, the surrounding mountains would get frequent rain and that water could be harvested.

A little extreme and all that water weight may even upset some faults.....

It does seem like California likes to take dreamer solutions over simpler and more practical ones, like building more desalinization plants.



posted on Mar, 13 2015 @ 04:07 PM
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I suppose nobody remembers why there is a shortage of water.


Government Regulations Save Minnows and Kill Jobs

CAl Watchdog




posted on Mar, 13 2015 @ 04:12 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

They (illegals) are actively breaking the law-there is no scapegoat argument.

Millions of less people (that don't belong here according to our laws) flushing the toilet/watering "their" lawns would have a positive effect on the drought situation.

Screw feelings-take action.



posted on Mar, 13 2015 @ 04:15 PM
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We faced the same issue here in South Australia and its no laughing matter.

City dwellers living in their nature disconnect fake utopia need to understand that running out of water means far more than having to drive a dirty car and have a dead lawn.

I witnessed the Murray River here in SA turn a terrible shade of irridescent green, I saw the lakes recede exposing poisonous soils and killing millions of fish. Once fertile farmland became barren and unproductive. Animals were dying everywhere from heat, starvation and thirst.

Luckily for us the drought eventually broke but it could still return. The whole West Coast of the USA needs to invest in desalination as part of a long term strategy to deal with this because just like here in OZ, even when the drought breaks it will return.
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posted on Mar, 13 2015 @ 04:15 PM
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This should have been addressed years ago, but as usual senators wacky doodle, and psycho wind bag chased boogy men money and power.

Now watch them pull the think of the children (in the cities) card and they will bone the rural areas around the metropolis, to further kick the can down the road...can't upset the voting base.

That's what happened in Florida, I lived in the rural area that Clearwater got its water from. Took us over a decade of lawsuits to get control of the water under us.

During that time I watched farm after ranch go belly up because of those retired Yankee leaches that just had to water their lawns in the middle of a ten year drought sucked the water out from under us.

If you live in the rural areas in California I would start talking to lawyers fast.
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