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originally posted by: Seede
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
1st John 3:9 is referencing Jesus the Son of God who cannot sin and is the only begotten of God. No man is born of God except Jesus. That is why Jesus is unique in that He is the only begotten of God. All of the rest of procreation is born of man and not born of God. Jesus' seed remained in Him as He was without sin. You must take verse 8 and verse 9 together to understand John. I have noted that you have presented this several times.
1 John 5
3 In fact, this is love for God: to keep his commands. And his commands are not burdensome, 4 for everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith. 5 Who is it that overcomes the world? Only the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.
I apologize for making fun of your beliefs. I just see you accusing me of being possessed and led by demons quite a bit and I find that a bit disrespectful in itself.
Yet you attributed a snake being able to talk as the work of Lucifer. Seems as though Satan has the same abilities as your God, giving a voice to things that shouldn't.
One says Satan, the other says God. Maybe they're one and the same. The bible does say Satan masquerades as an angel of light.
They were not 'real people', not "a couple" named Adam and Eve, the latter of which was made of "Adam's rib". COMMON SENSE 'implies' (not 'applies') that those sections are DEFINITELY to be taken metaphorically.
Do you think the characters in Harry Potter are real, just because someone wrote a book about them? Or the characters in The Wizard of Oz, or Star Wars, or the Lord of the RIngs?
Good Gawd, some days on here are like trying to have an intelligent conversation with people in a Sheltered Workshop.
Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder when it comes to Christianity??
"We are not worthy so much as to gather up the crumbs under thy Table. "
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Abednego
Did Adam and Eve really have free will? God, as the myth goes, told them they could "eat" of any tree except one. If they could "do" anything but one "thing", If they do the one thing, God promised they would die, even though they should have had no concept of death. Is that free will? I think not.
If Adam and Eve DID have free will. then exercising it wouldn't have been evil or wrong. Exercising free will, in disobedience of God could not be a sin, it would have been an initiation.
When our children mature to a certain degree, we send them off into the wild word to live on their own, lest they live off us forever! It a wonderful and exciting time, for most young people.
By the way, I agree with Caladonea, the story of Adam and Eve is allegory for the human condition, not history.
Satan has quite a few powers than allow him to counterfeit God. He is not the Father of Lies for nothing, and there is a reason why he will deceive so many in the end. Take care that he doesn't deceive you.
Are you really saying its bad to teach your kids that not all of their natural urges are good?
What if you had a kid
and they had the urge to sexually harass other boys and girls at school? Would you just condone that behavior ?
So the reason you troll my theads is because your upset that your sinner
, and that your not good enough to get into a place where no evil exist....sounds to me like your just in denial....
So the reason you troll my theads
Like - what? Taking an extra cookie? Lying? No - of course not.
They never did that - because I taught them to have compassion. WITHOUT RELIGION. They are good people.
LOL!!! I what way am I a 'sinner'?