A list of occult practices. Can you add to the list?

originally posted by: Bybyots
a reply to: MimiSia

Sure, I'll try.

The simplest way to say it is that you should be engaged with life. Not the "occult". Life is occulted enough and the real secrets are to be uncovered through our relationships.

The Jewish folks sort of nail it with the saying, "L ’ Chaim !"

Good enough?

If everyone lived that way, would the three magi have been there to shower baby Jesus with gifts?

👣

originally posted by: MimiSia
a reply to: Bybyots

oh ok
yeah agreed
na zdravie

but are u listing in ur opinion occults ?(or not ?)sorry to ask
I don't see u.. so I ask
from what u said u don't care for occults
so why bother listing them

Occult means hidden. I suspect you are confusing occult and cults. The two words do not mean the same thing.

a reply to: BlueMule

oh I don't get u either

didn't cristianity begin later
but they marked Jesus's birth as the start??
is anyone disputing Jesus was Jew ???

sorry language barrier pls expand

a reply to: Tangerine

I am not English I thought they are similar if not same
what are the differences
I just read occult def eg devil worship
so I still dont get you

a reply to: BlueMule

Plotinus and Neo-Platonism came after the birth of Jesus by 200 years or so. Nevertheless, Plotinus claimed to be restoring the lost meaning of the teachings of Plato. Information is lost, recovered and lost again.

We seem to be undergoing a process, BlueMule.

a reply to: MimiSia

...so why bother listing them?

It's fun to make lists?

originally posted by: Bybyots
a reply to: BlueMule

Plotinus and Neo-Platonism came after the birth of Jesus by 200 years or so. nevertheless, Plotinus claimed to be restoring the lost meaning of the teachings of Plato. Information is lost, recovered and lost again.

We seem to be undergoing a process, BlueMule.

Oh, so it was ok to use magic to find and worship the Christ before a certain date, but not after. Gotcha.

👣

a reply to: Bybyots

shait so u are pro or against Pluto what is wrong with him ???

a reply to: BlueMule

If you say so. I don't really find myself struggling with definitions of magic these days.

Keep up the good fight, BlueMule.

a reply to: BlueMule

What magic??

really?

a reply to: BlueMule

so what occult is meaningful from what was listed as "occult" so far
very interesting

originally posted by: Bybyots
a reply to: BlueMule

If you say so. I don't really find myself struggling with definitions of magic these days.

Keep up the good fight, BlueMule.

Well, I think it's you that's saying so. And the OP.

If the three wise men had listened to the OP, they would not have been able to shower baby Jesus with worthy gifts.

👣

a reply to: MimiSia

pro or against Plato

Hrm. I'm pro-philosophy-is-one-continuous-current-of-thought-and-human-development.

Do svidaniya!

And Good Luck,

a reply to: BlueMule

what? what do u mean?

originally posted by: MimiSia
a reply to: Tangerine

yes I don't get all of the above

I believe that u are a ted more intelligent then that

u are very familiar with the terms

Your quarrel should be with the OP who, through his list, provided his definition of occult. That's the one I was using. I wonder why you don't question his list. Could you tell us?

originally posted by: MimiSia
a reply to: BlueMule

oh I don't get u either

didn't cristianity begin later
but they marked Jesus's birth as the start??
is anyone disputing Jesus was Jew ???

sorry language barrier pls expand

I dispute that Jesus ever lived. As a mythological figure he was a Jew, of course.

a reply to: [post=19101561]Bybyots[/

u are so vague
wished I knew more

originally posted by: MimiSia
a reply to: Tangerine

I am not English I thought they are similar if not same
what are the differences
I just read occult def eg devil worship
so I still dont get you

Occult means hidden or secret. That's all it means. Your doctor can give you a diagnosis and if the cause of your disease is unknown, the doctor will indicate in the records that it is occult. The OP, on the other hand, is using the word to mean any belief or practice other than those he believes in or practices which is absurd.

A cult is a group that uses deception to recruit and threats or intimidation to retain members. The group is usually shaped in a pyramid structure with an "all-knowing" all-powerful charismatic leader at the top. The designation cult has nothing to do with ideology. I am giving you the definition used by cult experts. As you can see, the definition of cult and occult are not the same.

originally posted by: Tangerine

originally posted by: MimiSia
a reply to: BlueMule

oh I don't get u either

didn't cristianity begin later
but they marked Jesus's birth as the start??
is anyone disputing Jesus was Jew ???

sorry language barrier pls expand

I dispute that Jesus ever lived. As a mythological figure he was a Jew, of course.

If he did live, he epitomized the psychological process of awakening that a mystic undergoes.

If he didn't live, his fictional story was written by people who understood that process. Only mystics understand that process.

Only mystics grok the gospel.

So, the distinction is meaningless. It doesn't matter whether he lived or not. I would have expected you to realize that, given your love of religious scholarship.

/shrug

👣

originally posted by: BlueMule

originally posted by: Tangerine

originally posted by: MimiSia
a reply to: BlueMule

oh I don't get u either

didn't cristianity begin later
but they marked Jesus's birth as the start??
is anyone disputing Jesus was Jew ???

sorry language barrier pls expand

I dispute that Jesus ever lived. As a mythological figure he was a Jew, of course.

If he did live, he epitomized the psychological process that a mystic undergoes.

If he didn't live, his story was written by people who understood that process. Only mystics understand that process.

Only mystics grok the gospel.

So, the distinction is meaningless. It doesn't matter whether he lived or not. I would have expected you to realize that, given your love of religious scholarship.

/shrug

👣

It certainly does matter within the context of Christianity whether he lived because it is a foundational belief of CHristianity that he died to "save us", etc.. It doesn't matter within the context of this thread so I wonder why you brought it up to begin with?