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Is this an offense under the Logan Act? GOP's message to Iran.

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posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 04:17 PM
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Tomorrow, 24 hours later, Cotton will appear at an “Off the Record and strictly Non-Attribution” event with the National Defense Industrial Association, a lobbying and professional group for defense contractors.

The NDIA is composed of executives from major military businesses such as Northrop Grumman, L-3 Communications, ManTech International, Boeing, Oshkosh Defense and Booz Allen Hamilton, among other firms. [url=https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/09/upon-launching-effort-scuttle-iran-deal-senator-tom-cotton-meets-defense-contractors/][Source][/url ]

If this is true, this dude needs to be immediately expelled from the Senate.
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posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 04:22 PM
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Wow. Looks like someone sold out.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I want to see all of them behind bars. ASAP.

👣



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 04:28 PM
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a reply to: BlueMule

There's a petition on wh.gov but it has hardly any signatures. No one cares. The people of this country deserve everything they're going to get. They just don't care.



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: BlueMule

There's a petition on wh.gov but it has hardly any signatures. No one cares. The people of this country deserve everything they're going to get. They just don't care.


Which I don't have a problem with if our cultures and economies weren't so closely related. THAT is why non-Americans have a vested interest in American politics.



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 04:44 PM
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Of course I have been following the article, which makes it clear they are reiterating how the treaty process works.

And they are wrong. The Senate is supposed to ratify the treaty after it has been made not before.



How is stating your intentions a violation of the Logan Act?

Because they are interfering with the negotiations between Obama and Iran. Their job is to ratify the treaty after it has been made they have no right to say anything to that other nation which may disrupt those negotiations. Not only are they in violation of the Logan act they are also stepping over their boundaries when it comes to the separation of powers. These nitwits need to remember Obama is President of America not Netanyahu. These people look more like the Likud party than the GOP everyday.



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 04:51 PM
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Is this an offense under the Logan Act?


That's funny...

you know: I don't remember the left, Dems and media asking this question when Horse face and ted kennedy went to france without authorization to negotiate with the NVA during the Vietnam war to as he put it find a way to force America out of the war.

I think; and this could just be me, but i think that the question would be more credible maybe if some dems denounced that first. Or if Kerry recanted and denounced his own actions as traitorous. because I don't recall one democrat then or since ever bringing it up. Isn't that peculiar?
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posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 04:52 PM
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posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 04:54 PM
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It's 2015. Focus.

These are the same scum that voted against our veterans.



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 04:55 PM
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originally posted by: stormbringer1701


Is this an offense under the Logan Act?


That's funny...

you know: I don't remember the left, Dems and media asking this question when Horse face and ted kennedy went to france without authorization to negotiate with the NVA during the Vietnam war to as he put it find a way to force America out of the war.

It think and this could just be me, but i think that the question would be more credible maybe if some dems denounced that first. Or if Kerry recanted and denounced his own actions as traitorous. because I don't recall one democrat then or since ever bringing it up. Isn't that peculiar?


Your insults against your opponents not withstanding.... this was just a Canuck with a question. It didn't come from your broken media.



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 05:00 PM
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you know iDon't remember the left, Dems and media asking this question when Horse face and ted kennedy went to france without authorization to negotiate with the NVA during the Vietnam war to as he put it find a way to force America out of the war.

Johnson gave Kennedy the authorization to negotiate the peace process. He did that to keep Kennedy from running for President.
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posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: stormbringer1701

It's 2015. Focus.

These are the same scum that voted against our veterans.
Principles do not change with time. they are always right or wrong. unless you are a lib. then it depends on whether it gives political advantage or not.
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posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 05:06 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010
And they are wrong. The Senate is supposed to ratify the treaty after it has been made not before.


And what part of the letter constitutes an attempt to ratify a treaty?




Because they are interfering with the negotiations between Obama and Iran. Their job is to ratify the treaty after it has been made they have no right to say anything to that other nation which may disrupt those negotiations.


What part of a letter saying a treaty that they have not given their advice and consent on makes it invalid is disruptive? Show me the text where they are negotiating with Iran (this is not the first time I asked so you are obviously avoiding the request).


Not only are they in violation of the Logan act...


Then why were none of them arrested and charged with treason? Is Holder feeling generous?


...they are also stepping over their boundaries when it comes to the separation of powers. These nitwits need to remember Obama is President of America not Netanyahu. These people look more like the Likud party than the GOP everyday.


Again, show me the specific text in that letter that usurps the President.

Are you capable of completing simple tasks?



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posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 05:07 PM
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4 trillion is unpatriotic but 8 and growing is just wonderful. Executive orders are horrible unless you are Obama too. you might as well get pom poms and bleat out little cheers for your team. the poutrage is a farce. and its perpetrators are often too stupid to realize they were just jeering when the other team had the ball.

life is more important than that.
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posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 05:08 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010
Johnson gave Kennedy the authorization to negotiate the peace process. He did that to keep Kennedy from running for President.


Check your timelines prior to posting, Kerry and Kennedy went to France in 1971. Last time I looked Lyndon Johnson had been out of the White House for a few years by that point.



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 05:09 PM
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posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 05:16 PM
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I don't love Obama but I have never seen a Congress treat a President as badly as this one has been treated. It is hard to not see prejudice in their actions. I hope I am wrong. They are pure hateful and dishonorable.



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 05:21 PM
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originally posted by: Xeven
I don't love Obama but I have never seen a Congress treat a President as badly as this one has been treated. It is hard to not see prejudice in their actions. I hope I am wrong. They are pure hateful and dishonorable.
Then your memory does not reach even 7 years into the past. i trust you had some sort of traumatic accident?



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 05:26 PM
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Senator who spearheaded letter to Iran got $1 million from Kristol’s ‘Emergency C’tee for Israel’

he U.S. media have been sadly incurious about the origins of yesterday’s unprecedented Open Letter of 47 Republicans to the Iranian leadership seeking to block the president’s likely deal with Iran. The press has portrayed the letter as the work of Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton, a 37-year-old freshman senator so new to the limelight that the New York Times got his name wrong on first impression. But as a Times commenter writes, “Does anyone really believe the ‘freshman senator from Arkansas’ wrote the letter? No.”

The media are all over the unprecedented nature of the letter — which informs Iranian hardliners that Obama’s likely deal with Iran is a “mere executive agreement.” Chris Matthews and Chris Hayes and Michael Steele on MSNBC last night all expressed outrage or surprise. Paul Waldman at the Washington Post calls the letter “stunning” and “appalling.” But apart from a passing reference to neocons from Matthews, no one is looking under the hood.

I don’t know who wrote the letter, but I can tell you whose fingerprints are on it: the only folks who are supporting it publicly, the hard-right Israel lobby. Even as Cotton himself splutters on national television, rightwing lobby groups are the main voices out there defending the letter.

- See more at: mondoweiss.net...


Oh. What a shock.



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 06:08 PM
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Well this was not bill nor act of congress so it would be great to see them convicted of felonies, jailed and I think they could never run for gov office again. I need popcorn



posted on Mar, 10 2015 @ 06:29 PM
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Sabotage. Sedition. Treason. Maybe. Who knows. I'm not an attorney.

Embarrassment to the nation. For sure.




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