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AR State Rep. Justin Harris adopts two girls; takes in one more, gives away to child molester

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posted on Mar, 8 2015 @ 08:36 PM
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I'm going to be sick. This is unconscionable! If the law cannot do anything about this give-away that resulted in the sexual abuse of this little girl, then everybody that knows this man should turn their backs on him, condemn him openly and in no uncertain terms let him know what a low-life scumbag he is. It should follow him for the rest of his life and his wife's life.




posted on Mar, 8 2015 @ 08:38 PM
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originally posted by: pheonix358



Yes I agree with what you have said. I wonder where the Government department was in assessing his ability to care for the girls before the adoption and where they were after the adoption ... obviously they dumped and ran too.

This whole scenario could be prevented if the Department had kept their eye on the children. To fix it, they need to tighten up the rules for adoption .... but he was a Politician so ...... they didn't.

You do not need new laws to fix this. Not at all.

Two children, known to be in need, get adopted ... and the department does no follow up .... hmm.

Just watch where the rabbit hole goes on this one.

This should have had alarm bells ringing in the Department, but no, lets have a knee jerk reaction with enormous consequences for parents to be used whenever the authorities wish to bring it into play.

No thanks. Put the blame where it belongs. The Department dropped the ball!

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I DO agree with one law to close the loophole to allow them to pass these kids from home to home after adoption. That DOES need closing. I'm sure on that we can agree. Otherwise Rep. Harris would not have been able to dump these kids onto the pedophile. He would have been forced to contact the adoption agency to let them know it wasn't working out. Then the agency could have found a better solution for the girls. (As for the threats, I sincerely doubt the politician was so terrified that he, his wife, and his boys, all slept in the same room for 6 months until he gave the girls to the pedophile. I'd be curious as to how "violent" the girls were in the pedophile's home. No mention was made of that. According to the foster mother who had them previous to Rep. Harris, they were never violent and were quite gentle with her family Bichon Frise. The politician claims as soon as they signed adoption papers, the girls "flipped a switch" and became incredibly violent" all of a sudden. I somehow doubt it, but fine, whatever. There were other remedies other than "rehoming".



posted on Mar, 8 2015 @ 10:07 PM
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My heart goes out to these children. I'll bet anything that they were caught up in a religious movement that encourages adoption. The church the family attends promotes this type of adoption:


Cross Church believes that adoption and orphan care is one of the greatest ministries that God-called couples can provide the local church and local community. Adoption is at the heart of the Gospel message, for through the life, death, and resurrection of Christ Jesus we are adopted into the Kingdom of Heaven. Through Jesus we Christians have been adopted as sons and daughters into God's family — thus Christians ought to be at the forefront of the adoption of orphans in North America and around the world.

Caring for widows and orphans is referenced 47 times in Scripture. We long to show God's love in a way that not only serves the children around us but ultimately honors the Father to the fatherless (Psalm 68:5).

Cross Church holds the missional vision of reaching Northwest Arkansas, America, and the World for Jesus Christ, and thusly is passionately supportive of adoption and orphan care ministries. Please explore this page to find adoption resources and read personal accounts of Cross Church families that have walked through adoption.

source

Decades ago I had family and friends go through the adoption process. There was never any religious attachment to it. Some were infertile, some were single women, some wanted to adopt special needs children after their biological children were older. No one preached to them that adoption was "doing God's work"! That can lead to families going into adoptions with their hearts in the right place but not their mind, perhaps seeing their own salvation through adopting.

From an article:


"Many adoptive families were not prepared for the devastation that these children were suffering from," acknowledges Acres of Hope's Patty Anglin—the memories, in some cases, of extreme violence, relatives killed, corpses in the street. These were "good, good families," she adds, "but oftentimes they have the heart, but not necessarily the background or education to understand what is involved."

Orphan Fever: The Evangelical Movement's Adoption Obsession

The rest of the article is an excellent read on this adoption movement.



posted on Mar, 8 2015 @ 10:12 PM
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Re-homing has become a serious issue. I watched a documentary on it not too long ago.



States start to crack down on parents 're-homing' their adopted kids
By Leslie A. Gordon Dec 1, 2014

Among pet owners, "re-homing" an unwanted dog or cat is a relatively straightforward process. The owner who seeks an alternative home often places an ad on the Internet, and a private transaction occurs that moves the pet to a new family.

But with the rise of foreign adoptions of children and the inability of some parents to handle troubled youths, more and more desperate families are taking that approach with adopted youngsters and re-homing the children with strangers. Often those re-homed children report gruesome tales of physical, sexual or emotional abuse by their new guardians.

www.abajournal.com...



posted on Mar, 8 2015 @ 10:17 PM
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a reply to: Anyafaj

I think you are missing a piece of the puzzle.

When you foster a child, the ultimate authority remains with the State.

When you adopt a child, the child is yours for all legal purposes. It is as if you were the natural parent.

Any law they bring in to 'close this loophole' will affect every parent in the State.

Then, in a gradual process, more and more parents will fall under its sway and you will slide into a new era of the Government telling you what you can and can't do with your own children.

The current laws were enough in this case. To me, clearly, the Department wrote of these children and never followed up ... until it was too late.

Everything else seems to be an excuse. Any parent can allow their children to live anywhere they wish. It is their right to do so and many parents do this in family emergencies ... until this new law takes affect.

The very fact that this politician is not facing charges for Child Endangerment should be a big red flag for everyone.

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posted on Mar, 8 2015 @ 10:33 PM
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originally posted by: desert
My heart goes out to these children. I'll bet anything that they were caught up in a religious movement that encourages adoption. The church the family attends promotes this type of adoption:


Cross Church believes that adoption and orphan care is one of the greatest ministries that God-called couples can provide the local church and local community. Adoption is at the heart of the Gospel message, for through the life, death, and resurrection of Christ Jesus we are adopted into the Kingdom of Heaven. Through Jesus we Christians have been adopted as sons and daughters into God's family — thus Christians ought to be at the forefront of the adoption of orphans in North America and around the world.

Caring for widows and orphans is referenced 47 times in Scripture. We long to show God's love in a way that not only serves the children around us but ultimately honors the Father to the fatherless (Psalm 68:5).

Cross Church holds the missional vision of reaching Northwest Arkansas, America, and the World for Jesus Christ, and thusly is passionately supportive of adoption and orphan care ministries. Please explore this page to find adoption resources and read personal accounts of Cross Church families that have walked through adoption.

source

Decades ago I had family and friends go through the adoption process. There was never any religious attachment to it. Some were infertile, some were single women, some wanted to adopt special needs children after their biological children were older. No one preached to them that adoption was "doing God's work"! That can lead to families going into adoptions with their hearts in the right place but not their mind, perhaps seeing their own salvation through adopting.

From an article:


"Many adoptive families were not prepared for the devastation that these children were suffering from," acknowledges Acres of Hope's Patty Anglin—the memories, in some cases, of extreme violence, relatives killed, corpses in the street. These were "good, good families," she adds, "but oftentimes they have the heart, but not necessarily the background or education to understand what is involved."

Orphan Fever: The Evangelical Movement's Adoption Obsession

The rest of the article is an excellent read on this adoption movement.



I'd never heard of this church, to be honest. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

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posted on Mar, 8 2015 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: Annee
Re-homing has become a serious issue. I watched a documentary on it not too long ago.



States start to crack down on parents 're-homing' their adopted kids
By Leslie A. Gordon Dec 1, 2014

Among pet owners, "re-homing" an unwanted dog or cat is a relatively straightforward process. The owner who seeks an alternative home often places an ad on the Internet, and a private transaction occurs that moves the pet to a new family.

But with the rise of foreign adoptions of children and the inability of some parents to handle troubled youths, more and more desperate families are taking that approach with adopted youngsters and re-homing the children with strangers. Often those re-homed children report gruesome tales of physical, sexual or emotional abuse by their new guardians.

www.abajournal.com...



You'd think these kids were pets the way they're treated. Shameful! If you remember the name of the documentary, please let me know. I'd like to see it if it's still out there.



posted on Mar, 8 2015 @ 10:38 PM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: Anyafaj

I think you are missing a piece of the puzzle.

When you foster a child, the ultimate authority remains with the State.

When you adopt a child, the child is yours for all legal purposes. It is as if you were the natural parent.

Any law they bring in to 'close this loophole' will affect every parent in the State.

Then, in a gradual process, more and more parents will fall under its sway and you will slide into a new era of the Government telling you what you can and can't do with your own children.

The current laws were enough in this case. To me, clearly, the Department wrote of these children and never followed up ... until it was too late.

Everything else seems to be an excuse. Any parent can allow their children to live anywhere they wish. It is their right to do so and many parents do this in family emergencies ... until this new law takes affect.

The very fact that this politician is not facing charges for Child Endangerment should be a big red flag for everyone.

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Apparently he's under investigation, whether it's for this, or the fraud of accepting the adoption money while they were not in the home, I'm not sure.

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The blog above at Arkansas Times seems to have been keeping up on this whole story from the beginning. I have to get some rest for some doctor's appointments tomorrow, but I'll be doing some heavy reading when I get home on that blog to see what's been going on from beginning to now.



posted on Mar, 8 2015 @ 10:52 PM
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originally posted by: Anyafaj

originally posted by: Annee
Re-homing has become a serious issue. I watched a documentary on it not too long ago.



States start to crack down on parents 're-homing' their adopted kids
By Leslie A. Gordon Dec 1, 2014

Among pet owners, "re-homing" an unwanted dog or cat is a relatively straightforward process. The owner who seeks an alternative home often places an ad on the Internet, and a private transaction occurs that moves the pet to a new family.

But with the rise of foreign adoptions of children and the inability of some parents to handle troubled youths, more and more desperate families are taking that approach with adopted youngsters and re-homing the children with strangers. Often those re-homed children report gruesome tales of physical, sexual or emotional abuse by their new guardians.

www.abajournal.com...



You'd think these kids were pets the way they're treated. Shameful! If you remember the name of the documentary, please let me know. I'd like to see it if it's still out there.


Oh I agree. It seems like most of the parents had this idealist program the kids are suppose to fit in. Well guess what, kids are who they are. You need to address their needs --- not make them fit your perfect idealistc program.

Sorry, I don't remember the documentary or where I saw it.



posted on Mar, 8 2015 @ 11:22 PM
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originally posted by: Annee





Oh I agree. It seems like most of the parents had this idealist program the kids are suppose to fit in. Well guess what, kids are who they are. You need to address their needs --- not make them fit your perfect idealistc program.

Sorry, I don't remember the documentary or where I saw it.




That's ok. I'll check Netflix and see if anything pops up that remotely resembles a documentary about "rehoming" adoptive children. I do remember Law and Order: SVU did an episode on it a long while back. Still some messed up stuff! I sincerely hope this Representative goes down and goes down hard!



posted on Mar, 9 2015 @ 12:04 AM
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a reply to: Anyafaj

Found one here


www.cbc.ca...

Looks like there are a few things on Youtube aswell.



posted on Mar, 9 2015 @ 12:15 AM
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originally posted by: Candycab
a reply to: Anyafaj

Found one here


www.cbc.ca...

Looks like there are a few things on Youtube aswell.



Thanks! I saved the page! Now I really, really, really (lots of reallys) must get some sleep and stop refreshing the page.



posted on Mar, 9 2015 @ 12:18 AM
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a reply to: Candycab

These are all very sad cases and should never happen in any society.

But, you have laws to counter the problem already. You have laws that tackle child abandonment. This should not only be about adoptees, but about all children. You can't go selling or permanently giving away any child.

All countries have laws covering this area, at least I hope so.

I think the Parents should have to pay for the child's upkeep until they finish college.

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posted on Mar, 9 2015 @ 12:35 AM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: Candycab

These are all very sad cases and should never happen in any society.

But, you have laws to counter the problem already. You have laws that tackle child abandonment. This should not only be about adoptees, but about all children. You can't go selling or permanently giving away any child.

All countries have laws covering this area, at least I hope so.

I think the Parents should have to pay for the child's upkeep until they finish college.

P



Personally I think it should be until they finish high school. I was working 2 jobs while in high school and paying rent to my parents, and by college, I was working 3 jobs and going to college! The irony of it all now, is I'm severely disabled and can only work an hour a day, and of course, no employer is going to hire anyone for one hour a day, but my family likes to call me lazy. Whatever. I know I'm not lazy, if I were lazy, I wouldn't have taken on 3 jobs at once while going to school, and getting only 3 hours of sleep a night. But hey, call me lazy, when you become disabled, unlike them, I won't look down on them, I'll ask them if they need help. I don't believe in kicking a person when they're down.

I have no problem with kids getting an age appropriate job while in high school, as long as it doesn't interfere with studies. If the parents wish to charge rent and put it in an interest bearing account, something I do wish my parents had done for me. My stepmother was money hungry, so I understand her "need for rent" and my dad's need to go along with it. I don't agree with it, but if a parent were to do such a thing, I think an interest bearing account would be a good idea to give to the child upon entering college, if not college, then a new apartment.



posted on Mar, 9 2015 @ 01:49 AM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: Candycab

These are all very sad cases and should never happen in any society.

But, you have laws to counter the problem already. You have laws that tackle child abandonment. This should not only be about adoptees, but about all children. You can't go selling or permanently giving away any child.

All countries have laws covering this area, at least I hope so.

I think the Parents should have to pay for the child's upkeep until they finish college.

P


I couldn't agree with you more



posted on Mar, 9 2015 @ 10:39 PM
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How the hell is this moron , helping run our government?

Isn't this part of what is going on in our 99% broken corrupt, perverted, government, this is just sick.

That other dude in Washington D.C., cover-up where they were taking kids from Boys Town, for wild sex parties in D.C.. The Priest said, " I don't know anything about it ", sure he don't. He was doing it too.

This is world wide, take this dumb -arse out and shoot him, he's way lame.
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posted on Mar, 11 2015 @ 02:40 PM
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It gets worse, apparently Justin and Marcia Harris thought the kids were demon possessed and telepathic.

m.arktimes.c om

Chelsey Goldsborough, who regularly babysat for the Harrises, said Mary was kept isolated from Annie and from the rest of the family. She was often confined for hours to her room, where she was monitored by a video camera. The reason: The Harrises believed the girls were possessed by demons and could communicate telepathically, Goldsborough said. Harris and his wife once hired specialists to perform an "exorcism" on the two sisters while she waited outside the house with the boys, she said.

Multiple sources who interacted with the family confirmed Goldsborough's account that the Harrises believed the children were possessed, and another source close to the family said that Marsha Harris spoke openly about the supposed demonic possession.


I'd say 'only in Arkansas', but we all know that's not true... :/



posted on Mar, 11 2015 @ 03:17 PM
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originally posted by: Elton
It gets worse, apparently Justin and Marcia Harris thought the kids were demon possessed and telepathic.

m.arktimes.c om

Chelsey Goldsborough, who regularly babysat for the Harrises, said Mary was kept isolated from Annie and from the rest of the family. She was often confined for hours to her room, where she was monitored by a video camera. The reason: The Harrises believed the girls were possessed by demons and could communicate telepathically, Goldsborough said. Harris and his wife once hired specialists to perform an "exorcism" on the two sisters while she waited outside the house with the boys, she said.

Multiple sources who interacted with the family confirmed Goldsborough's account that the Harrises believed the children were possessed, and another source close to the family said that Marsha Harris spoke openly about the supposed demonic possession.


I'd say 'only in Arkansas', but we all know that's not true... :/




These people are enough to make me sick. Can I drive down and beat the living Pee out of them? Please? Can we form a queue? I'll start, who's next? Flipping psychos! You know who has demons? People who give little girls to child molesters! That's who! Flipping demons my arse! They do NOT want to meet me! I'll show them a demon! Crap like that really fans my hide!

Edit to add something from the article:

Why am I not surprised at ALL to read this:



However, a source familiar with the workings of state-level DHS informed the Times that Blucker supposedly remarked in 2012 that "Harris threatened to hold up the budget for the division if he didn't get to adopt those girls."

Justin Harris suggested he used his influence to obtain the three girls during the adoption hearing, according to Cheryl Hart.


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posted on Mar, 11 2015 @ 07:41 PM
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originally posted by: Elton
It gets worse, apparently Justin and Marcia Harris thought the kids were demon possessed and telepathic.


Multiple sources who interacted with the family confirmed Goldsborough's account that the Harrises believed the children were possessed, and another source close to the family said that Marsha Harris spoke openly about the supposed demonic possession.




This guy needs to be removed from his job, how can they have a fool like this in US government. How was this guy elected in the first place. It's a fact, hate to say, the American people are just plain Stupid, just plain, real Stupid.

Obama has not fulfilled one, of his campaign promises, not one, when are the American people going to wake up. Down threw history 99% of the leaders of the world, were just players, playing on the ignorance and trust of the people, for their own gain.



posted on Mar, 12 2015 @ 03:19 PM
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How was it 'all legal'? They isolated them and locked them up. They had them 'exorcised'. Is that not neglecting a child? Is it not child abuse? How is it legal to aid a rapist? How is it legal to hire rapists and supply them with children? Is that not child-trafficking? False imprisonment? Inciting the rape of a minor? Was Francis known to be a rapist while on Harris' payroll? These two should do time. Acting like they can't be charged is completely f
king insane.




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