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originally posted by: tastyrawmeat
Hello. It seems so open to interpretation, but it would be interesting if those of you that have perhaps studied this in more depth could give me a few pointers on the general idea, maybe some of the opposing viewpoints and your personal opinions.
Thanks
originally posted by: DaphneApollo
a reply to: tastyrawmeat
This should help you. I had a thread with this mans whole Revelation series but they were deleted.
He's a very good teacher, you will learn from the beginning to the end with this series. Genesis to Revelation. Pull this to youtube to continue to next video.
Chuck Missler above is also very good.
Revelation means to reveal, it's not easy to understand on ones' own. But, once you do, even today's NWO will make sense to you and you will understand what's been going on and what will come.
And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars.
And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. Called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world
There was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
The dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ
I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
originally posted by: sanitizedinfo
to me revelations exposes a view of a possible future that follows views from individual perspectives from people in those times. The only thing i can put together is the parts about the "woman that rides on the dragon"..to me that is america (lady liberty) depending on china (the dragon). DOnt take me literally, its just one of many theory.
originally posted by: Raytrek
a reply to: Hombre
We already have humanity before we read books, we don't get humanity from books, if anything we could lose our humanity reading books if we are not careful.
And Jesus was setting the bar for leaders not followers.
originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: tastyrawmeat
Right off the bat you have the wrong idea. You want some one
else to tell you the message you're supposed to get from the Bible.
Read it and study it with the ideas that fit for you and draw your own
message from Gods word. To much for ya?
BM
If it was written to keep me afraid? It's just not working.
So just make it up as we go eh? May as well study Jedi Holochrons.
originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Xeven
So just make it up as we go eh? May as well study Jedi Holochrons.
For you, yes. See you actually have to apply the methodology before you
can comprehend what I'm talking about. Not recommended
for those cynical closed minded or less open to all possibilities, depriving
mostly themselves.
originally posted by: spy66
What is revelation 12, 13 and 17 really about?
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To sum this up.
The red dragon With seven heads, ten horns, and ten Crowns hate jews because they brough forth the man child that defeated him in heaven.
When he is cast out of heaven and onto Earth, he declears war on all jews and all the remnant of their seed, and the once who keep the commandments of God, and the testimony of Jesus Christ.
After giving birth to the man child.... the woman fleas from the Dragon into the wilderness....to a place prepared for her by God.
And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
In revelation 17.3 The angel Brings John in spirit into the wilderness to take a look at the Woman.
And this is what he see:
I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.