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originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: johnwick
String theory is an attempt to unify orthogonal theories data under a single unified model. It doesn't matter how many dimensions or oddities string theory has, so long as it explains the data. To date, string theory is incomplete.
And this is exactly how science works. Models are built to simulate observational data, new data comes in, the model is either tweaked or superseded by a better model that explains all of the current and new data. To make it sound like some sort of fudging exercise divorced from observation is disingenuous as the reality is precisely the opposite.
scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.[1][2] As with most (if not all) forms of scientific knowledge, scientific theories are inductive in nature and aim for predictive power and explanatory force.[3][4]
The strength of a scientific theory is related to the diversity of phenomena it can explain, and to its elegance and simplicity (Occam's razor). As additional scientific evidence is gathered, a scientific theory may be rejected or modified if it does not fit the new empirical findings- in such circumstances, a more accurate theory is then desired. In certain cases, the less-accurate unmodified scientific theory can still be treated as a theory if it is useful (due to its sheer simplicity) as an approximation under specific conditions (e.g. Newton's laws of motion as an approximation to special relativity at velocities which are small relative to the speed of light).
Scientific theories are testable and make falsifiable predictions.[5] They describe the causal elements responsible for a particular natural phenomenon, and are used to explain and predict aspects of the physical universe or specific areas of inquiry (e.g. electricity, chemistry, astronomy). Scientists use theories as a foundation to gain further scientific knowledge, as well as to accomplish goals such as inventing technology or curing disease. Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge.[3] This is significantly different from the common usage of the word "theory", which implies that something is a conjecture, hypothesis, or guess (i.e., unsubstantiated and speculative).[6]
originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: Bedlam
Gotta ask. What's your take on Dark Matter? Real as theorized? There's another process going on that they haven't figured that accounts for what they believe is dark matter? Or something else in regards to it entirely?
originally posted by: Bedlam
Now what's on the table is, can they concoct a test that will support or deny the supersymmetry model over the standard model. Standard model works pretty well, with an exception being this dang ol' dark matter issue. While it would be nice to know just what is up with the dark matter thing, it would be a wonderful bit of serendipity to get a nice bonus of finding out the supersymmetry model is testable while you're at it.
originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: Bedlam
Interesting. I've noticed that galaxies form along strings like some giant tapestry. Like there is a underlying order to how they collect together. Maybe they are forming in relation to something else at the 90 degree angle. Something for the hamster wheel in my head to spin around pondering.
originally posted by: Bedlam
originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: Bedlam
Gotta ask. What's your take on Dark Matter? Real as theorized? There's another process going on that they haven't figured that accounts for what they believe is dark matter? Or something else in regards to it entirely?
I'm no particle physicist.
However, my off the cuff guess is, as Heinlein once said, what's at 90 degrees to everything else?
John Cramer wrote a sci-fi novel about 25 years back wherein he posited that there were sets of physical universes at right angles to each other, and nothing leaked through except gravitational effects. So you had anomalous gravitational sinks that tended to be centered on astronomically large masses like galaxies, because the universes tended to have galaxies in about the same places, but not so much for smaller things like planets.
originally posted by: mbkennel
originally posted by: Bedlam
However, my off the cuff guess is, as Heinlein once said, what's at 90 degrees to everything else?
A: a crank
For example prof S. Hawking ponders the relationship between a creator/god and cosmological theory in the last chapter of a brief history of time
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the construction of the universe, and a complete over glorification of consciousness and mechanisms and biological architecture it constitutes. The only mystic Im hearing about in this whole conversation is you.
originally posted by: BlueMule
originally posted by: stormcell
Science is based on a feedback cycle of generating theories, experiments, analysis of results to confirm or disprove those theories. It's known that there are whole classes of sub-atomic particles. In the vacuum of space, all these particles just float around, so anything could be out there.
It's less well known that the pioneers of QM were powerful mystics who created, not discovered, those whole classes. Consciousness is the nature of reality, and we are co-creators.
Now science is in the hands of non-mystics who scramble around certain taboo rocks that they would rather remain unturned. The result is a convoluted mess.
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originally posted by: Agnost
a reply to: korkythecat
For example prof S. Hawking ponders the relationship between a creator/god and cosmological theory in the last chapter of a brief history of time
Have you also read "The Grand Design"? There he says something along the lines of: philosophy is dead, physicists can now answer more and more of their questions, and: as physiscs evolve, the need for a God diminishes... (not actual quotes, but something like that)
And who's that? It's Karl Marx, Karl Marx is warming up. It looks as though there's going to be a substitution in the German side. [Marx removes the track-suit, under which he is wearing a suit.]
Obviously the manager Martin Luther has decided on all- out attack, as indeed he must with only two minutes of the match to go.
And the big question is, who is he going to replace, who's going to come off. It could be Jaspers, Hegel or Schopenhauer, but it's Wittgenstein! Wittgenstein, who saw his aunty only last week, and here's Marx. [Marx begins some energetic knees-up running about.] Let's see it he can put some life into this German attack. [The referee blows his whistle; Marx stops and begins contemplating like the rest.] Evidently not. What a shame. Well now, with just over a minute left, a replay on Tuesday looks absolutely vital.
There's Archimedes, and I think he's had an idea. Archimedes (John): Eureka! [He runs towards the ball and kicks it.]
Football Commentator: Archimedes out to Socrates, Socrates back to Archimedes, Archimedes out to Heraclitus, he beats Hegel [who, like all the Germans, is still thinking]. Heraclitus a little flick, here he comes on the far post, Socrates is there, Socrates heads it in! Socrates has scored! The Greeks are going mad, the Greeks are going mad! Socrates scores, got a beautiful cross from Archimedes. The Germans are disputing it.
Hegel is arguing that the reality is merely an a priori adjunct of non-naturalistic ethics, Kant via the categorical imperative is holding that ontologically it exists only in the imagination, and Marx is claiming it was offside.
But Confucius has answered them with the final whistle! It's all over! Germany, having trounced England's famous midfield trio of Bentham, Locke and Hobbes in the semi-final, have been beaten by the odd goal, and let's see it again. [Replay viewed from behind the goal.] There it is, Socrates, Socrates heads in and Leibnitz doesn't have a chance. And just look at those delighted Greeks. [The Greeks jog delightedly, holding a cup aloft.] There they are, "Chopper" Sophocles, Empedocles of Acragus, what a game he had. And Epicurus is there, and Socrates the captain who scored what was probably the most important goal of his career.
originally posted by: immoralist
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the construction of the universe, and a complete over glorification of consciousness and mechanisms and biological architecture it constitutes. The only mystic Im hearing about in this whole conversation is you.