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Ben Carson: Prisons prove being gay is a choice

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posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 10:03 AM
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originally posted by: rupertg


Deffinition:

Hypocrite



Climb the ladder then push it away fo others cant follow.
edit on 4-3-2015 by crazyewok because: (no reason given)




posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 10:04 AM
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a reply to: NavyDoc


But that would make it a choice then? If your only option (not only, masturbation has been invented for a long time, LOL) is to choose to engage in homosexual behavior, wouldn't that indicate that, at least in some cases, homosexual behavior is a choice?


Sure, anybody who acts in a sexual way, gay or straight, chose to do so.

But you can't control attraction. I can't control or choose the fact that I am attracted to men and not women.

Engaging in homosexual activity doesn't make you homosexual either. A lot of people experiment and figure out what their sexual orientation is through those experiences.

Prison, probably not the place a lot of that gets done by choice if you know what I mean.

~Tenth



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 10:08 AM
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a reply to: tothetenthpower

Is his opinion that important?

Can he become president?
Can he lead the nation?
Does he have qualifications?

All this does is justify every idiotic statement and lie made by Obama. Yet all we heard from that camp was "racist!"

hmmf.

I've come to the conclusion that there will never be a candidate that agrees with me 100%.

But that's because my ideology isn't given to me like marching orders.

If we are going to dismiss every candidate because they;
A) Say something stupid
B) Don't agree with me 100%

Then that simply shows how small and narrow-minded people have become.

But I will simply let people's own opinions determine how weak and narrow-minded they are.

That's why I enjoy free speech.



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 10:11 AM
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a reply to: tothetenthpower

Wow. Just when you think human stupidity has reached bottom, No! lets dig a little deeper.



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 10:11 AM
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obviously if you're on the receiving end of being raped there is no choice involved. so 50% go out the window right there. The other half that's doing to raping aren't doing it because they find the male form to be attractive and sexy. It's a means of oppression and control, not sexual preference.

Maybe he should spend some time in a serious correctional facility and see how he feels about that "choice" he made to be a homosexual after he gets raped for the first time. Probably wouldn't feel to great to be called a "homosexual by choice" after that.

What a moron.



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: tothetenthpower

Is his opinion that important?

Can he become president?
Can he lead the nation?
Does he have qualifications?

All this does is justify every idiotic statement and lie made by Obama. Yet all we heard from that camp was "racist!"

hmmf.

I've come to the conclusion that there will never be a candidate that agrees with me 100%.

But that's because my ideology isn't given to me like marching orders.

If we are going to dismiss every candidate because they;
A) Say something stupid
B) Don't agree with me 100%

Then that simply shows how small and narrow-minded people have become.

But I will simply let people's own opinions determine how weak and narrow-minded they are.

That's why I enjoy free speech.



I don't think people want a candidate to agree with them 100%. I'm fine with disagreements, especially if the other has a well formed and logical reason for their believe or disagreement.

Do you really think the statement about prison proving homosexuality is a choice falls under the above description?



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 10:13 AM
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a reply to: beezzer


All this does is justify every idiotic statement and lie made by Obama. Yet all we heard from that camp was "racist!"


What are you on about? How does Ben Carson saying something completely ridiculous and stupid, have anything to do with what Obama said? Because they are both black?!

Why bring race into this conversation at ALL?


Is his opinion that important?


Yes, because people, nationally support this person as somebody who could be president.


Can he become president?
Can he lead the nation?
Does he have qualifications?


That never stopped the many other President's from running and winning. The one we have in office now included.


If we are going to dismiss every candidate because they;
A) Say something stupid
B) Don't agree with me 100%

Then that simply shows how small and narrow-minded people have become.


I'm not dismissing him because of just those two things. I'm dismissing him because he has a history, a long history of saying stupid things, that I don't agree with. Like Sarah Palin.


But I will simply let people's own opinions determine how weak and narrow-minded they are.


Indeed.

~Tenth



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 10:14 AM
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a reply to: tothetenthpower

What's so funny about that statement is the weird misconception that sexuality is a "choice" in prison... IT'S PRISON.

Honestly, I would be content as a celibate person in prison but I know of several straight people to whom sex is a large part of their lives. I would imagine all of those straight folks would end up with some gay sex in prison just because choice is eliminated.

He is actually proving the point that it's not a choice.



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 10:14 AM
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originally posted by: MisterSpock


I don't think people want a candidate to agree with them 100%. I'm fine with disagreements, especially if the other has a well formed and logical reason for their believe or disagreement.


Puh-leeeze! Most are just parrots for any given administration!



Do you really think the statement about prison proving homosexuality is a choice falls under the above description?


I don't really care.

Does this, will this, have an impact on how he leads as president?



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 10:15 AM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic




Maybe because it's their only option?


wrong, celibacy is one, self gratification is another.



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 10:17 AM
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I disagree with what Carson said. I also do not agree that most sex in prison is in the form of rape. Maybe a good portion of it is but I suspect That more often the sex is consensual.



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: beezzer
If we are going to dismiss every candidate because they;
A) Say something stupid
B) Don't agree with me 100%

Then that simply shows how small and narrow-minded people have become.


Trust me, this statement is NOT why I long ago dismissed Ben Carson as a presidential candidate... In fact, I doubt this statement has any effect on anyone's decision to support him or not.

It seems the reason you would suggest it does, is to imply that those who are criticizing his statement are "small narrow minded people"...

Points for snarkiness, though!



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: beezzer


All this does is justify every idiotic statement and lie made by Obama. Yet all we heard from that camp was "racist!"


What are you on about? How does Ben Carson saying something completely ridiculous and stupid, have anything to do with what Obama said? Because they are both black?!

Why bring race into this conversation at ALL?

~Tenth




Because EVERYTHING that has ever been said negatively about President Obama has been attributed to race. It's "our" turn now. Seems rather foolish does it not?

I bet Dr Carson knows how many states there are in the nation he wants to lead though

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posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 10:28 AM
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originally posted by: beezzer
Does this, will this, have an impact on how he leads as president?


You don't think his thoughts would have any impact on marriage equality? If not, then I would agree. But, so far, Ron Paul is the only conservative politician I've seen who doesn't let his own personal prejudices get in the way of his thoughts on freedom.

This is why liberals largely vote for liberals and conservatives for conservatives. It's because we all understand that the person they are voting for plays the game with a bias and will push their own agendas. There are gay republicans out there who would never vote for this guy because it's a pretty sure bet he won't advocate for marriage equality. So it totally has an impact on how he would likely lead as a president.



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: tothetenthpower

Being gay is a choice...What's so funny? You actually believe people are born gay? That's even funnier! People aren't born gay, but if you gays need a reason to justify being gay, go for it....You know that is wrong but will cling to it in arguments all day long...I am not arguing this point so don't even reply, but I find it even funnier people believe they are actually born gay!



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 10:32 AM
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originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
wrong, celibacy is one, self gratification is another.


OK, let me be more specific and break it down for you. If a prisoner is determined to have sex with someone and while in prison, MOST TIMES, their only option is to have sex with someone of their own gender.

Co-ed prisons (?)and opposite-gender prison guards are clearly exceptions to this.

And as others have said, it's usually about power (rape) and usually only one "participant" chooses it, and the behavior usually doesn't continue outside of prison.

Hope that clears it up for you.

Whew! I hope I've covered all the bases!

So, do you agree with Dr. Carson's statement?



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 10:35 AM
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a reply to: Chrisfishenstein


You know that is wrong but will cling to it in arguments all day long.


And you'll cling to your religion as proof that you are correct, I would assume?

Pot meet kettle I suppose.

~Tenth
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posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 10:39 AM
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originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
Being gay is a choice...What's so funny?


That's not what he said, though. He said that homosexual behavior in prison PROVES that it's a choice. That's what's so freaking hilarious about what he said.



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 10:41 AM
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It's like the republican party has become a real life onion parody of a party.

Do these guys site around smoking crack and writing down the craziest things they can think of?

How do they make up stuff like this?



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 10:45 AM
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originally posted by: Cuervo

originally posted by: beezzer
Does this, will this, have an impact on how he leads as president?


You don't think his thoughts would have any impact on marriage equality? If not, then I would agree. But, so far, Ron Paul is the only conservative politician I've seen who doesn't let his own personal prejudices get in the way of his thoughts on freedom.

This is why liberals largely vote for liberals and conservatives for conservatives. It's because we all understand that the person they are voting for plays the game with a bias and will push their own agendas. There are gay republicans out there who would never vote for this guy because it's a pretty sure bet he won't advocate for marriage equality. So it totally has an impact on how he would likely lead as a president.


So do you have to have a candidate that agrees with your own ideology 100% in order to get your support?



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