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FlyersFan
One object, may be not, i.e. Nibiru would eclipse the sun but you would still see the stars.
But many smaller objects, ET ships, if they do it intentionally, they could. Of course it is still hypothesis, because we may talk endlessly whether
They exist, up until the moment they show up.
The matter I am being discussing in this thread, is WHO might have the good use of the 3 days of darkness. I question the widespread idea of catholic
seers, that during the 3 days of darkness the demons from hell will kill every ungodly person (ref. Marie Julie Jeannie, others).That phenomenon is
expected not only by catholics, but also by Buddhists (ref. Japanese princess Nakamuru about the expected 3 days of darkness in 2012).
I propose a different viewpoint, and hope the catholics will have enough arguments to defend theirs. Such as, did Padre Pio wrote what allegedly
people say he did about the 3 days, and what is the official position of the Catholic Church on that. Why is it, the ex-jesuit Malachi Martin said the
danger would be not physical but spiritual. Along with the many accusations he said about the ruling Rome authorities, his statements about the 3 days
are also questionable. I.e. do we have a mega conspiracy to make the good-bad, in order not so many people to find the way of salvation. If so, it is
logical to assume such conspiracy has been planned for long, far beyond one generation or century, if we apparently have involvement of
extraterrestrials (be they called, angels, or demons in that case, imo).
We are told by unverifiable 'beautiful apparitions' of the Virgin projected directly in the minds of unsuspicious faithful seers, but not seen by
other bystanders,... that we should stay still and continue sacrifices, the people who barely make their way in this world due to physical, economic,
or other private and societal woes. We are told we should sit, pray and wait until the Chastisement passes by, and then the earth will be restored to
some primordial pristine state. That is in contrast with logic and sane reason. Instead, I'd suppose hundreds of thousands if not millions of years
between a devastated earth (by nuclear or celestial, or geologic cataclysm) and the state of paradise garden spoken on by prophets.
The temporary apparitions of the Virgin and "Jesus" are claims that are not covered by the Sacred Scripture, even in the limited form of the NT that
reached to our days from Nicaea council. The idea they are the darkness and distress between the Second Coming is unverifiable and has been expected
ALL THE TIME since the First coming of Jesus on Earth. They are not told by the Old Testament prophets either, who speak of the far end of history,
not of contemporary events. The OT prophets moreover differ from NT, that they have not been changed by imperial orders to "church fathers" centuries
later.
The predictions I am discussing, including the 3 days of darkness, are told by someone who claims the authority of Virgin Mary. In case the seer is a
common person, the bishop's approval is being sought. In case the seer is a pope himself (Leo, Pius, others) no one approves it of course, it is taken
as granted.
On such basis, it is unwise for the Christians and especially here the Catholic ultra conservative faithful, to put their fate and that of God's
chosen people in the hands of such fables, and to forget the sane reason that leaded Noah out of the Flood, and Israelites - out of Egypt. To forget
that God is capable of extra-super-natural intervention, but not in the mode of preset apparitions who practically ask the faithful to stay AND DIE EN
MASSE.
Having all that said, I think we'd better talk of who and why of the ET have interest to intervene before impending events (as Fatima and Akita) and
why should not be told to the faithful that their salvation in physical terms depends on their acceptance of the salvage boat sent ultimately by God.
What the Vatican is silent about, secular movies are not. That's why I find the parallel with Star Wars very timely. There the Good side fights to win
over the bad side, using every opportunity. It doesn't wait to be eliminated from the (fictional) galaxy of Star Wars. Perhaps there is still much to
learn. No ready solutions, and no ready masters are available around, as it is in Star Wars.
After millenia complex history, it would be good for the Catholic Church to make a last effort to clean its image, by showing the salvation boat to
the wider world. For now it just doesn't happen. The ultraconservative circles that I commented above, stay on their position "die hard". Still, the
billion wide Church have other majority members who would have accepted the salvation ship if they were told so by the pope.
The Catholic Church doesn't have the right to miss its historic chance. If it does, it will remain in history as irrelevant at best.
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