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Can We Unravel the Sources of Funding for Black Projects?

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posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 04:10 PM
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All branches of the U.S. military have Black Projects, and funding them seems to get successfully buried in the billions of dollars thrown at the top half dozen defense contractors every year.

The TR-3B triangle is "our" ET-technology craft, Deep Black still. Both space and atmo capable in the latest versions, 2013 was the "Year of the Angry Fireballs", where our TR-3Bs destroyed endless incoming fireballs/meteors before impact by shooting them thru with a Still Black "Rods-from-God" missiles.

TR-3Bs were operational in the 1980s. But how did we pay for them? According to multiple sources, all the billions set aside for NASA to develop a new shuttle to get us back and forth to the ISS (and maybe to the Moon again), were diverted to the TR-3B. Makes sense if one part of the TR-3B's mission was to ferry astronauts to the ISS and Moon.

But that never happened. We started paying the Russians $60 million a seat to ferry our NASA astronauts to and from the ISS, while the TR-3B stayed Deep Black and took up a more defensive position with the Angry Fireballs. (Not to mean that all those incoming fireballs were craft or sentient, but were certainly "directed and malevolent weaponry.")

Do angry "others" in our solar system keep all our TR-3Bs tied up in war maneuvers? Couldn't we spring even one loose to ferry our astronauts around with the craft's famous "gravity-cancelling" technology? Launch costs for all that super-expensive chemical fuel burned up in just the launch-phase would be history overnight. And we'd finally have the funds to create a truly robust manned space program.

You can stay up long nights pondering all these questions. But this discussion is about trying to figure out where all the millions and billions come from for ongoing Deep Black projects like the TR-3B program. Then I read this:

www.bizjournals.com...
A HALF DOZEN PRICEY WEAPONS' PROGRAMS YOU PROBABLY DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT

It all starts with the arcane way the Pentagon classifies its acquisition programs. The first or top program, which 40% of weapons' programs fall into, is fairly straight forward. But the second and third weapons' acquisition programs have fewer reporting requirements and are overseen at lower organizational levels - although they may have annual funding needs just as significant as the top category.

So it would appear that weaponry funding for the second and third acquisitional levels may be where most Black Ops Programs are funded - with fewer questions, mandated answers and less oversight.

Maybe super-knowlegable Zaphod58 - after he yells at me for the millionth time that the TR-3B doesn't exist - could shed some light on this byzantine funding of Pentagon weaponry, and how easy it is to hide their Black Projects in the lessor couple levels.




posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 04:12 PM
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a reply to: MKMoniker

Black projects are paid for through the classified budget that's part of the annual budget. You can get an idea what it's going for but not specifics.



posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Thanks for responding.

"Classified Budget"? Is this like the CIA, where they have no labeled yearly budget, but their funds are tacked on to a dozen other Intel Agencies? This with the understanding that a certain percentage of say, the FBI's budget, is understood to always belong to the CIA?

And what exactly is "Classified" about this (Pentagon?) budget? The total amount? Or just the details? Although if a military branch is mentioned, you'd have a vague hint. Funds for new tank development wouldn't be going to the Air Force.

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posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 04:35 PM
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a reply to: MKMoniker

Could this account for just a small portion of that funding?


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posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 04:45 PM
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Since you talk about them with such certainty, do you have any evidence that 'TR-3Bs' actually exist?
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posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 04:50 PM
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a reply to: MKMoniker

The amount of the budget is given. And to an extent where it goes. It's part of their annual budget and the amounts are easy to find.



posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 05:10 PM
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a reply to: MKMoniker

Let's get serious about this "God/rod" business. Meteors can travel at 40,000 mile per hour as did the one in Russia a cuple of years ago. No missile on earth can come within a fraction of that velocity. Even the new rail gun with a solid projectile doesn't come within a fraction of achieving that velocity.

My extensive views on the triangles have been shared a lot here on ATS. I've tried to drum into the heads of those that refuse to believe or accept that the triangles are the greatest development in technology since the invention of the wheel. Automatically, it becomes the best war weapon and space vehicle ever. And that is precisely why it is still a secret, if an open secret. And then we also have the delicate problem of that technology being derived from UFOs.



posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 05:26 PM
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a reply to: Aliensun

Probably what will happen is private, civilian technology will eventually "catch up" to where these triangles are at, and someone will build one...and then, the existing ones that we've had for decades will be indistinguishable from the brand new one that's created in the open -- thus the masses will never suspect we've had them for decades.

I've always wondered if the rumored money being made in the drug trade is funneled into black projects -- that money never touches the government, so it's 100% off the books.



posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 05:46 PM
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I always figured drugs, human trafficking, stuff like that. But I'm no insider so what do I know? Not much lol... except there's this one thing... The Iran-Contra scandal I believe? Plus theres a whole wikipedia page full of sources about the CIA selling drugs. Then there's "Freeway" Ricky Ross. The real Rick Ross, not the fat rapper wannabe supposed freemason and ex correctional guard punk... (but who doesn't like that song "Everyday I'm Hustlin"? I had to give only that one song of his a street pardon after I saw Katt Williams act featuring that song that made me lmao)

Iran Contra Scandal (arms dealing)

CIA Drug Dealing (narcotics trafficking)
Hmmm... lets see, we have the two biggest drug trafficking states, Texas and Florida, with Bushes as governers at one time. The Bushes, who have ties to the CIA. The CIA, allegedly involved in drug trafficking... its almost too perfect.
Freeway Rick Ross (crack kingpin linked to CIA)



posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 05:47 PM
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How many trillions went missing when the Pentagon was hit in 2001, 3 or 4? That's enough to finance the black budget for many years. The known unknowns and the unknown knowns Donald Rumsfeld, swore they had no idea what happened to it.
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posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 06:19 PM
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None. It was unaccounted for, because the different programs all used different software that didn't talk to other software so they had to input a lot of entries manually.



posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 07:46 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: MKMoniker

The amount of the budget is given. And to an extent where it goes. It's part of their annual budget and the amounts are easy to find.


While what you say is indisputable, monetary transfers between agencies is virtually untraceable. When that happens 'following the money' becomes an ordeal not many are willing to effort. Any 'plausible' excuse for transfer is accepted and the funding is essentially laundered for those with the cajones to spend it.
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posted on Mar, 3 2015 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: Snarl

Oh there's a lot more to it. Otherwise you could figure out what the money is for more than you can now. That's why not many even try when it comes to the classified budget.



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 11:51 AM
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Good Post! Thanks.

Although the corrupt members of government are "misplacing" millions all the time. And Team Obama is the worst. He had lots of unfilled Inspector General slots in his first term, and no one was in any hurry to fill them. (If you are planning for, or just anticipating corruption or illegal activities, just drag your feet filling those IG slots ...)

When the State Department got its first IG under Kerry (there was no IG for the 4 years Hillary headed that Department), the first thing he found was that $6 Million had gone missing from State under Hillary's tenure.



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 11:56 AM
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a reply to: MKMoniker

Do you know what's involved in DoD accounting? It would make any sane accountant insane in about thirty seconds. There used to be eight different software types for six programs, all keeping track of money. And none talked to any of the others. It was a godawful mess.

It wasn't just accounting either. Logistics software, you name it. They were all developed under separate contracts, and none of the requirements included being able to talk to other programs.



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 11:58 AM
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a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

Of course TR-3Bs exist! And there are tons of evidence. Just check out the last half of THIS discussion:

www.abovetopsecret.com...
A TR-3B DISCUSSION IN MILITARY.COM?



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: MKMoniker

There's speculation by people. Using some of the logic put forth in that thread, if it's a triangle it's a TR-3B. Therefore the B-2 and all other flying wings are.



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 12:18 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Thanks for your reply. I found this:

archive.wired.com...
EXPOSING THE BLACK BUDGET

This claims that strange code names are used for "classified" defense projects that need funding. And, of course, only those few directly involved with the black project knows what the code-name refers to.



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posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: MKMoniker

Of course there are. What would be the point of having a Black Project if you're going to put into the budget what you're buying?

I'll use your favorite, the TR-3B as an example.

Let's say it's real, for the sake of argument. They hide the development, the technology, and the mission, then turn around and in the publicly released classified budget say, "We need $750M to buy two TR-3Bs."

Does that make any sense? So of course they call the program something else. The initial finding for the B-2 was listed as Aurora, which opened a whole other can of worms.
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posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 12:32 PM
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a reply to: Aliensun

www.inquisitr.com...
FOUR HUGE FIREBALLS REPORTED OVER EASTERN U.S. IN 24 HOURS

Look at the first photo very carefully. That is an incoming fireball being blown up from within, probably by a needle-missile fired by the hovering TR-3B in the upper right.

The "Rods from God" have been talked about for a decade, almost. So they've been in black-development at least that long. And that photo is rather dramatic evidence that one version of the RfG are operational, and suited for firing from a TR-3B.

Here's a YouTube video:

www.youtube.com...
FIREBALL/UFO BEING SHOT DOWN OVER ORANGE COUNTY
Several things are going on here. The most obvious is the fireball/UFO traveling laterally, followed by a missile-trail. But pay attention to the balls-of-light zipping around this fireball, lower left and upper right. At the 1:09 mark, watch a Rod-from-God emerge from the front of the fireball (before it's fuzzed out), and the disintegration of the fireball/UFO.


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