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Report: Obama Threatened to Shoot Down IAF Iran Strike

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posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: doompornjunkie

Please explain how the US is not a democracy?

With a fair voting system, a justice system, an electable government, and so on?



Please don't say "it's because we are a Republic"...




posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 02:54 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

I couldn't care less if Iran are Nuclear armed or not.



But given that they are stuck between trigger happy Nuclear Israel & unstable Nuclear Sunni Pakistan...

It's their decision ultimately.



Let me ask you a question.



If you have a Nation of Islam neighbour... One side...
& a Gangbanger the other side...

Both armed to the teeth...



Would you accept other neighbours across the street or from two streets away telling you that you couldn't arm yourself?

Of course you wouldn't!

Now you know how Iran feels.



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: doompornjunkie

Please explain how the US is not a democracy?

With a fair voting system, a justice system, an electable government, and so on?



Please don't say "it's because we are a Republic"...


That's exactly why! We are a republic. If we were a democracy bush would have lost an election, Gore would have been president, and Obama may or may not have been elected depending partially how Gore was accepted.
So again, no we are not a democracy.

Thanks though!



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 03:03 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs





Please don't say "it's because we are a Republic"...



Who is we?

Explain why we are not a republic.



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 03:03 PM
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a reply to: doompornjunkie

LoL you are a Republic Democracy...

A Republic itself is a subtype of a Democracy...


I'm not too sure if that Bush/Gore debacle is as solidly backed up as it is espoused either.


But thanks though.



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 03:04 PM
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a reply to: thesaneone

Who said you aren't a Republic?



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 03:05 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: thesaneone

Who said you aren't a Republic?


You did.



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 03:05 PM
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So basically Obama is trying to peacefully negotiate things like an adult whilst Isreal just wants to kill people?
Seems reasonable. No one from Iran has ever done anything to me, and their culture looks quite nice. Hopefully it's true.
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posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 03:05 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: queenofswords

What ever happened to not assuming things are true based on unnamed reports and biased news sources?

We have no validity to this what soever.

While I don't agree with the idea of shooting down planes to stop an attack like this, I think it would serve us well to not allow it to happen.
How legal of an attack would that have been?
What would it spark if it was/is carried out?


Name ONE news source that is not biased! Then prove it!

We all flock to the herd that thinks along the lines and beliefs we do. As long as we do this, we become more divided!

Finding the truth in todays world means having the ability to read thru information that is 90% lies and trying to figure out the 10% that is truthful!



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 03:07 PM
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Clearly I didn't and your reading comprehension failed you.



I said please don't use the "we are a Republic" narrative to negate you are a Democracy...

Because the two go hand in hand and often people think a Republic is somehow not a Democracy...



That's what I said...

Not what you have implied!



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 03:08 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

I hope this is true. One of the few things about Obama I can say I'm proud of. Let's face facts, Israel is a warmongering nation under its current leadership who wants war with Iran asap. Israel has been covertly attacking Iran for years now which only has been fueling their delusions and blood lust.

So good for Obama for reeling back the attack dog with real consequences. There's enough war and conflict in the Middle East already, no one needs a war with Iran.



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 03:10 PM
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a reply to: seeker1963

Sure they are all biased, which is why you need more then one or at least one that toes the line.

Do you think there is any truth to this?



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 03:11 PM
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posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 03:16 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

So Iran are equivalent to the Nazis???


Kindly, get real!



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 03:17 PM
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posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 03:17 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: doompornjunkie

LoL you are a Republic Democracy...

A Republic itself is a subtype of a Democracy...


I'm not too sure if that Bush/Gore debacle is as solidly backed up as it is espoused either.


But thanks though.


You are purposely ignoring the fact that the US being a democratic republic does indeed change our narrative.
A democratic republic is a form of democracy, but not a democracy. A democracy is ruled by majority, we are not.



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 03:18 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

I work with a girl from Iran and I know it is off topic but she is the most beautiful girl I have ever met.
She goes back every other year and has shown me many a photo, I would love to go one day.
She is my Persian princess

If only I was 15 year younger lol.



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 03:20 PM
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a reply to: doompornjunkie

Well now you're playing with semantics...


I'm more than certain you knew I wasn't talking about a direct democracy...




Anyways we've drifted far enough.

My apologies everyone.



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 03:24 PM
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a reply to: boymonkey74

They are a lovely people Iranians...

Some of their leadership is questionable...
Some of their laws are also...

But that's a global issue imo.



I think without Khomeini Iran could be a real front runner.



posted on Mar, 1 2015 @ 03:25 PM
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originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: doompornjunkie

LoL you are a Republic Democracy...

A Republic itself is a subtype of a Democracy...


I'm not too sure if that Bush/Gore debacle is as solidly backed up as it is espoused either.


But thanks though.


You are purposely ignoring the fact that the US being a democratic republic does indeed change our narrative.
A democratic republic is a form of democracy, but not a democracy. A democracy is ruled by majority, we are not.


Thank G*d we are not mob-ruled. The power resides with The People through elected representatives that govern according to Laws. IMO, it is the best form of government there is. Unfortunately, sometimes we elect the wrong person and unless he/she is operating so far outside our boundary of laws, we just have to ride it out.
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