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originally posted by: rupertg
originally posted by: ketsuko
You don't have to be born in the US, only on US soil. So it's valid if you are born on a US military base or embassy ground.
Yep,
Like John McCain being born in a US military base in Panama.
The Birther movement was never about the constitution
Just 110% political.
The newest falsehood goes like this: Obama was legally adopted by his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, and thus lost his American citizenship in favor of Indonesian citizenship. Sorry, that’s bogus, too. Because Obama was born in the U.S., he could not lose his citizenship as a child. It could be revoked only if he became a citizen of another country as an adult, and if that country didn’t permit dual citizenship.
originally posted by: buster2010
originally posted by: gmoneystunt
a reply to: ketsuko
They said his fake ssn's were a mistake. I had heard of this happening to others as well
SS numbers are reused. This thread is getting to be another rant by Orly Taitz. Just the same birther crap over and over that has been proven wrong time and again.
originally posted by: Danny85
a reply to: yuppa
From what I know about the US constitution, it doesn't matter where the parents are from, if the child is born on American soil then they are either an American citizen or hold duel citizenship. I'm not really into Obama so tend not to pay much attention to his history and backstory that has been crafted and rewritten more times than an American School Text Book, so I dont know where he was born but I'm sure he said it was Hawaii so would be an American.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: gmoneystunt
What could be the reason?
People really, really don't like the President and came up with a silly notion about his citizenship then produced fake documents.
originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck
He could be native born (in the U.S.A.) but not naturally born (both parents being American citizens).
There is nothing that says both parents have to be citizens.
Whereas such limitations would be inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the natural born Citizen clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congress's own statute defining the term natural born Citizen;
Notably, the definition, once again, is "parent's", plural, meaning BOTH mother and father, which a single Ann Dunham did not meet the standard.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: yuppa
I remember seeing he had one that was made in kenya too.
Don't believe everything you see on the internet. Especially if it comes from Orly Taitz.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Xtrozero
My daughter, born on American soil, to me, an American citizen, received a scholarship based on the fact that her father was a refugee from Columbia. That fact has no effect on my daughter's American citizenship.
When the Define and Punish Clause was being drafted, James Wilson expressed concern about the implications of Congress's power to "define" the law of nations: "To pretend to define the law of nations which depended on the authority of all the Civilized Nations of the World, would have the look of arrogance, that would make us look ridiculous." Gouverneur Morris responded: "The word define is proper when applied to offenses in this case; the law of (nations) being often too vague and deficient to be a rule." (In contrast to piracy, Justice Story wrote in United States v. Smith, "Offences, too, against the law of nations, cannot, with any accuracy, be said to be completely ascertained and defined in any public code recognized by the common consent of nations."
a reply to: buster2010
Besides his father after he married his mother became a citizen of America. That happens when a person marries an American citizen. Funny how the birthers forget this little fact.