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No one is right, but democrats are a-holes.

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posted on Feb, 27 2015 @ 10:07 PM
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Exactly! Its an issue that a whom bunch of liberals stand on one side, and a whole bunch of conservatives stand on the other! Multiple opinions, imagine that. But the notion that much more liberal crap is shoved down your throat is completely subjective.

Example, Rush Limbaugh said Michael J Fox is faking his Parkinson's. I for one think Rush is a pompous monkey at best. Am I a liberal jamming crap down your throat for calling out Rush? Al Sharpton is a tax cheat. Holy hell, I'm now a libaservative scumbag who can't pick a side and hates America, right?

But when people can't listen to alternative opinions and actually, listen....you aren't some on the fence "non-partisan" hero, you're a tool. Abortion is abhorrent? Ok, check. I respect that and won't even attempt to argue what you believe. Should you be able to argue for and against the dissenting side? And this notion of Liberal tidal waves taking over the world is an alternate dimension from what I see daily.

And who the heck does Michael J Fox think he is anyways...

a reply to: deadlyhope


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posted on Feb, 27 2015 @ 10:12 PM
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a reply to: deadlyhope

I know what you mean.

In the decades since my city has been taken over by the pc crowd-we have become a city that is always in the top 10 most dangerous places to live.

All our local online newspaper,city council,mayor,board of education can come up with as the reason for all of the killing is "the racist republicans".

Sorry to burst their bubble,but "the racist republicans" aren't out doing the killing.

The liberal kiss the rears of the murderers and punish the law abiding citizen ideal has turned my city into garbage.



posted on Feb, 27 2015 @ 10:14 PM
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They're all assholes. Politics is a very powerful dividing force in the world today and anyone who plays along with the charade is an asshole by extension. All it does is teach people to hate others because of their difference in opinions.

Like the old saying goes: opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. It's stupid to hate someone based on opinions and if you do you're an asshole. That's all politics is, highlighting people's differences then pitting them against each other. Divide and conquer.



posted on Feb, 27 2015 @ 10:14 PM
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originally posted by: deadlyhope
, and a whole big load of angry liberals come out. It's not just down my throat, it's how I see them interact with others.


Great job...

You have turned this into a macho liberal bashing thread. Just what we need!!! More division, rancor, and BS partisanship.

Happy now??? I have a sneaking suspicion that's what you planned all along.


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posted on Feb, 27 2015 @ 10:19 PM
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Well said! Divide and conquer, but only conquer the other side, we're just fine over here. Exactly my point

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1



posted on Feb, 27 2015 @ 10:22 PM
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a reply to: DuckforcoveR

The real problem is choosing a side and feeling passionate about it. The world would be a better place if apathy reigned, rather than what we perceive as human nature.

I believe in being completely unaffiliated & waiting for the end.



posted on Feb, 27 2015 @ 10:30 PM
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The problem is almost 3/4 of the world is ready to tell you how that end will come, and why you're doomed for living through it.

a reply to: Eunuchorn



posted on Feb, 27 2015 @ 10:31 PM
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a reply to: DuckforcoveR

Nope, I agree with your statement than Rush is a pompous monkey at best! You seem to be making more and more assumptions about my PERSONAL experiences. What I see and experience on other websites, is that liberals make more negative posts, and post more replies full of hatred, degradation, etc. I am not a right, nor left-leaning person so I do notice when both happen, I'm truly not making conservatives/republicans/etc to be a great crowd. I disagree, and agree with plenty on either side. But seeing people kick others when they're down? Tearing apart another person when the person simply needs to be taught with compassion and understanding? Liberals say they stand for this stuff, but I see the opposite. The loudest, most hateful statements seem to come from people that call themselves democrats, liberals, or left-aligned.

I see people of all types say all types of thing! It's not only an ethnicity, or a political stance or anything - I'm just saying more things that I, myself deem as hateful come from people who represent left ideas. Then again, it could just be my perception.

" I am so sorry you feel you should have an abortion, but I believe god has a plan and you should keep the baby, and everyone should keep their babies"

is far different, in my eyes, than

" F**k you, you piece of S^%T you shouldn't get to say what I do with my life, you don't know me, I hope you have a child with autism that threatens your life at birth "

Now do I see? " God will send you to hell!! Burn! " Yes! And I highly disagree with those people, dislike the statement, very much am just as much against them - I very much notice anti-threads from BOTH sides. Do I also see " Every woman has a right to choose what she does with her body, I support you " Yes! And that type of mentality I can get on board with - Compassion, understanding, being a decent person!

Which do I see more of? The angry liberal that rants, yells, screams, degrades, and otherwise just say and do things I deem to be terrible.



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 01:16 AM
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a reply to: deadlyhope

I find both democrats and republicans assholes. To call one party out because they go against more of your beliefs is showing you're more partial to the conservative views. I can't stand the two party system, yet both parties have a few issues I can agree with.

The majority of Democrats and Republicans can't ignore the faults of their own party affiliations. They don't dare talk bad about the bad or stupid things they do. The problem with our party system is it divides us and causes nothing but finger pointing, ridicule, and stagnation. Both parties have shoved crap down our throats, period.



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 01:28 AM
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This is one of my favorite Liberal news websites. I swear to god, the comments are better than sex.

www.addictinginfo.org...

Can anyone recommend me an entertaining Conservative news site?



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 02:02 AM
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wow this thread has lasted about thrity one minutes longer than i thought it would with such a cool title. S&F



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 09:17 AM
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originally posted by: deadlyhope


When I go online.. Though... The picture painted by left-leaning people is terribly wrong. " Abortions = Hell " is chanted much, MUCH LESS than " F**k Christians because they say abortions = hell "


Sounds like you want your cake and eat with that sentence..you're making it up..a bit like many teachings of the Bible.
Most of the hell and damnation crowd I know are ultra right wing conservatives, most of the socialists I know, deal with the human condition and heaven and hell just does not come into it.



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 10:08 AM
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Like Eunuchorn, I am completely unaffiliated politically; but if you put a gun to my head, I'd say I was a democrat. Small 'd'.

I am a democrat, simply and innocently, because I believe in democracy or "people power".

That translates to "whatever more than 50% of the people want goes". Even if I don't personally want it...I'm happy to go along, just because the majority like it.

And that's where I part company with folks who label themselves Democrats, capital 'D'.

Because they don't want what I want at all; to the contrary, they hide behind a noble banner to push their own agenda, and that makes them no better than Conservatives, or Republicans, or Nazis, or Communists.

They are ALL about promoting their own agendas and don't give a toss about what the majority of the population wants.

But by labelling themselves 'Democrats', they are wolves in sheep's clothing.

The others, however repugnant, kind of do what it says on the tin at least.



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 11:08 AM
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originally posted by: deadlyhope
Let me preface by saying I do not align with any political party. I do not like anyone in DC, I am split down the middle on the issues, etc. So this is not a "republican" talking against democrats, it's just a guy. Me\- I'm pro gay, I think marijuana should be legalized, I believe in separation of church and state..etc.


Really? Just by virtue of your thread title, you are definitely "talking against democrats," not to mention trolling.

While you may not be republican and despite the fact that the stances you admittedly favor are democratic mainstays, I can tell you this much about assholes; "It takes one, to know one!"


originally posted by: deadlyhope
I live in Utah - I grew up around many Mormons/christians, and am pretty accustomed to very conservative people in general. I don't align with all of the ideas, and what not but I believe I am surrounded by some decent people.

When I go online.. Though... The picture painted by left-leaning people is terribly wrong. " Abortions = Hell " is chanted much, MUCH LESS than " F**k Christians because they say abortions = hell "


Democrats don't say f**k Christians because they "say" abortions=hell. They say that about Christians who "try to legislate it into law" and those Christians are predominately right-wing conservatives.


originally posted by: deadlyhope
I see shots fired from both sides, but overall I see MUCH more liberal crap shoved down my throat than I do conservative. I can hardly go to many forums other than this one and see intelligent debate because liberals are chanting " Hail Obama " while insisting that unemployment is at a record low, that our debt has been cut by a huge amount, and that we pulled all troops out of the middle east a long time ago.


Unemployment IS at record lows and no one is saying that the "debt" has been cut by a huge amount. What they have said is that the "deficit" has been cut by huge amounts, which is absolutely true.

In case you were unaware, budget "deficits" are what causes "debt."



originally posted by: deadlyhope
Anyways.. I realize "choosing a side" is what's wrong with this nation in the first place, but as a person in the middle, I have to say a lot more liberals shove their crap down my throat ( even when I agree with them ) than do conservative/republican/christians.

- This is NOT about anyone in office, anyone in politics, I don't care who said what on live TV, this has nothing to do with the average citizen.

Keep it real, ATS. This is one of the last places I can go -

Deadlyhope


I really think you have a problem with "perception." But that's just my opinion. I guess you could take it as coming from one perceived asshole to another.



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 11:16 AM
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Every generalization is both true and false in either the specific or the universal.

Who's the bigger "a-double" is a chicken-egg problem.

I think the biggest issue is buying into the proffered cultural either/or:

"You're either this or that."

In reality, you're neither, and possibly both.



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: Flatfish

Ranting, not trolling. I don't represent anyone, nor do I adamantly go against anyone. I've already said I have views that often align with the left, I am talking about personal experiences. I dislike when people cram false Bible talk down my throat, and I also dislike when people cram their political opinions down my throat. Which happens more? Political opinions from the left being crammed down my, or many right wing posts I've seen online. This is my individual experience with the matter, and I am not saying it applies everywhere, for everyone, all the time. Simply to myself, from what sites I choose to read ( usually non politically affiliated sites.) and no argument can deny me my personal experiences.

And it's not about what I agree, nor disagree with. I am pro gays for instance, but still get upset when I see an innocent Christian teenager get torn apart for not having the same opinion as some Democrat that will tear apart a kid.

Like I say, I've seen Christians tell people they need religion, and the bible, or that they are going to hell. I'm not one sided, these self righteous Christians bother me maybe even more so.. I just see it far less often. At least when it comes to speech that is hateful, degrading, condescending, etc. I am not speaking of calm, well mannered words said from either side.



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 03:03 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

I can often tell if a person is kind within minutes of meeting them. I'm talking about being a decent person, not about sides - the whole political affiliation is just a correlation I noticed over these last couple of years. Extremely rude posts are often attached to a person that claims the left side, though left doesn't mean a person is bad, or a jerk. Just that quite often jerks seem to align to the left. Not all left are jerks, but many loud jerks, are left.

It could even be a small percent, I'm simply expressing what I've seen personally. Not a rule that applies to all.



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 03:30 PM
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. At least when it comes to speech that is hateful, degrading, condescending, etc. I am not speaking of calm, well mannered words said from either side


Do you think calling Democrats assholes is being calm and well mannered? It's trolling pure and simple. Playing right into the hands of those that want to destroy America with divide and conquer tactics. Is that what you want?

I'm a registered Republican btw but you aren't winning any converts to your way of thinking. Hypocrisy seldom does by using the same tactics you accuse others of using.

assholes indeed...disagreements are one thing and name-calling and trolling is another.
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posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 03:41 PM
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I am not trying to convert anyone.. This is a rant forum, not to mention.. I don't align with any side.

It's simply an opinion from what I've seen. It's like working at restaurants in the tourism business... Foreigners are usually quiet, happy to be where they are, and appreciative. Bikers are usually some of the funnest crowds to serve, Americans are the loudest and most rude, etc.... Do I think this applies to all circumstances, everywhere, and generalize these opinions into thinking all Europeans are great, all Americans are rude, and all Bikers are fun loving? No. But it does apply here.

If it was anything other than a rant forum, I'd express my opinion without anything like that attached. I'd simply plead with forum members to remember that education, teaching people with compassion and having solid arguments is how to spread information in a better way... Ats still has some of that.

But here in the rant forums? I'll say that hate posts more commonly have the word Democrat attached to them.

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posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 03:49 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: deadlyhope




. At least when it comes to speech that is hateful, degrading, condescending, etc. I am not speaking of calm, well mannered words said from either side


Do you think calling Democrats assholes is being calm and well mannered? It's trolling pure and simple. Playing right into the hands of those that want to destroy America with divide and conquer tactics. Is that what you want?

I'm a registered Republican btw but you aren't winning any converts to your way of thinking. Hypocrisy seldom does by using the same tactics you accuse others of using.

assholes indeed...disagreements are one thing and name-calling and trolling is another.


People take thread titles so very seriously...

It's actually a little pathetic. A thread title is supposed to grab attention & interest & being controversial will get people to click on it. It's becoming an epidemic to let thread titles get you so riled up despite the actual content.



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