9 things you think you know about Jesus that are probably wrong

a reply to: VigiliaProcuratio

I don't know why this is in italics!! -------


Well,

"well done, you!"

You got that "vague" thing going really well, I gotta say.
Again, welcome aboard.

Please keep your arms and legs inside the ride at all times, and your wig on straight.

Guys, off-topic, but - WHY am I all in italics now?

EDIT TO ADD: Seriousy - what was that?
My avatar font and everything - what was it????

A sign of something?


Or, am I the only one seeing this? I'm serious - does anyone else see my previous post is all in italics, including the text within my avy box>



Okay, this also is strange: When I go to view just my posts in thread, it isn't italicized. I inspected the element on the thread and see this random-seeming bracketed i (and yes, I know how to read CSS)......anyway - interesting puzzle. Sorry for being so off-topic -but, if you think about it - it could be very much on topic.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
A sign of something?

Yep.

Or, am I the only one seeing this? I'm serious - does anyone else see my previous post is all in italics, including the text within my avy box

Weird.

a reply to: VigiliaProcuratio

Do you see it?

a reply to: VigiliaProcuratio

Okay - let's play.

What do you think it means (and this coming from a person whose nape hair is standing on end)?

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
What do you think it means?

What, the weird text?

Just want to clarify my position on Jesus.

I do believe in a 'historical Jesus'. An actual human being that walked the Earth, and no not your gardener.

Watching this series of lectures was fairly compelling for me:

Historical Jesus, Professor Bart D. Ehrman Ph.D., M.Div.

I agree with some other posters who posit that his descriptions were an amalgamation of previous mythologies.

In that sense I don't think that Jesus Christ ever existed. It's that mythical overlay that defines what believers think of Jesus, and that's in my eyes a fabrication.

It seems to me he actually had a relatively small impact during those times, and thus not much historical evidence. Yet enough for me to warrant belief this Jewish man caused unrest that resulted in his crucifixion by the Romans.

Here is a quote from the first century Roman historian Tacitus:

"Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind".

This was in reference to a terrible fire that consumed much of Rome in 64 AD that Nero blamed on the Christians. Tacitus was a child when this fire occurred. In addition to whatever sources he later had at his disposal, he no doubt heard about, as I am sure most Romans had, Nero's thoughts concerning Christians and that fire. He was also not someone who would have motive for fabricating Christus and the Christians, unlike the Gospel authors.

originally posted by: VigiliaProcuratio
a reply to: Cogito, Ergo Sum

What's the point in that?

Go through the bible and see how many apostles there really were. Then look through the historical record (outside of the bible) and see how many were historical figures.