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originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Not sure if this is conspiracy or just folklore but thought it was interesting.
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Jesus has been described as the best known figure in history, and also the least known. If you mentioned the name “Jesus” and someone asked Jesus who, you might blink. Or laugh. Even people who don’t think Jesus was God mostly believe they know a fair bit about him. You might be surprised that some of your most basic assumptions about Jesus are probably wrong.
1. Married, not single.
2. Cropped hair, not long.
3. Hung on a pole, not necessarily a cross.
4. Short, not tall.
5. Born in a house, not a stable.
6. Named Joshua, not Jesus.
7. Number of apostles (12) from astrology, not history.
8. Prophecies recalled, not foretold.
9. Some Jesus quotes not from Jesus; others uncertain.
More to read at source. I've actually read quite a bit about the pole vs cross part and also lean toward the possibility that he was married and probably had children. Never heard of some of these others though.
Mythology? Just things getting changed up through time?
originally posted by: Tangerine
The biggest misconception is that he actually lived. There's not an iota of contemporaneous documentation (ie. historical evidence) proving that he lived.
originally posted by: ~Lucidity
I do believe that one of the secrets the Vatican is guarding is the fact that they know who his direct descendants are and where they are.
originally posted by: Rex282
If he knew he was going to die young it makes no sense to have wife and kids and leave them...
if they can’t even get the “name” right...
It says IN the Bible that our saviour didn't have long hair as it was an abomination. Yet the Catholic church would have us believe he's this beautiful long haired man. This isn't a 'none known fact' it's common sense to those who KNOW the scripture.
originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: Tangerine
What are you arguing? The thread isn't about whether or not he existed or are you just trying to poke Christians again?
But yes weather he had long hair or not is pointless same with all the other points on the list. It really doesn't even matter if he was married. I think the message is the most important part not the features of his life.
And why would the Romans/Jews write anything down about a man they humiliated and mocked? To further unrest in the region? Jesus mostly associated with the poor who I'm sure the vast majority could not write
And BTW, Samson had long hair.
originally posted by: Tangerine
originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Not sure if this is conspiracy or just folklore but thought it was interesting.
[Source]
Jesus has been described as the best known figure in history, and also the least known. If you mentioned the name “Jesus” and someone asked Jesus who, you might blink. Or laugh. Even people who don’t think Jesus was God mostly believe they know a fair bit about him. You might be surprised that some of your most basic assumptions about Jesus are probably wrong.
1. Married, not single.
2. Cropped hair, not long.
3. Hung on a pole, not necessarily a cross.
4. Short, not tall.
5. Born in a house, not a stable.
6. Named Joshua, not Jesus.
7. Number of apostles (12) from astrology, not history.
8. Prophecies recalled, not foretold.
9. Some Jesus quotes not from Jesus; others uncertain.
More to read at source. I've actually read quite a bit about the pole vs cross part and also lean toward the possibility that he was married and probably had children. Never heard of some of these others though.
Mythology? Just things getting changed up through time?
The biggest misconception is that he actually lived. There's not an iota of contemporaneous documentation (ie. historical evidence) proving that he lived.
Tammuz was a god of Assyria, Babylonia and Sumeria where he was known as Dumuzi. He is commemorated in the name of the month of June, Du’uzu, the fourth month of a year which begins at the spring equinox. The fullest history extant of this saviour is probably that of Ctesias (400 BC), author of Persika. The poet has perpetuated his memory in rhyme.
Trust, ye saints, your Lord restored,
Trust ye in your risen Lord;
For the pains which Tammuz endured
Our salvation have procured.
Tammuz was crucified as an atonement offering: “Trust ye in God, for out of his loins salvation has come unto us.” Julius Firmicus speaks of this God rising from the dead for the salvation of the world. This saviour which long preceded the advent of Christ, filled the same role in sacred history.
With shackles and inescapable fetters Zeus riveted Prometheus on a pillar...
Lo! streaming from the fatal tree
His all atoning blood,
Is this the Infinite?—Yes, ’tis he,
Prometheus, and a god!
Well might the sun in darkness hide,
And veil his glories in,
When God, the great Prometheus, died
For man the creature’s sin.
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
originally posted by: Tangerine
originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Not sure if this is conspiracy or just folklore but thought it was interesting.
[Source]
Jesus has been described as the best known figure in history, and also the least known. If you mentioned the name “Jesus” and someone asked Jesus who, you might blink. Or laugh. Even people who don’t think Jesus was God mostly believe they know a fair bit about him. You might be surprised that some of your most basic assumptions about Jesus are probably wrong.
1. Married, not single.
2. Cropped hair, not long.
3. Hung on a pole, not necessarily a cross.
4. Short, not tall.
5. Born in a house, not a stable.
6. Named Joshua, not Jesus.
7. Number of apostles (12) from astrology, not history.
8. Prophecies recalled, not foretold.
9. Some Jesus quotes not from Jesus; others uncertain.
More to read at source. I've actually read quite a bit about the pole vs cross part and also lean toward the possibility that he was married and probably had children. Never heard of some of these others though.
Mythology? Just things getting changed up through time?
The biggest misconception is that he actually lived. There's not an iota of contemporaneous documentation (ie. historical evidence) proving that he lived.
The biggest misconception is the idea that billions of people followed and believed Jesus' words at the time and thought it was worth scribing...
Followed by the misconception that everybody at the time was not only a scribe of some sort but also literate...
Followed by the ignorance to the fact that the Jews and Romans would not have destroyed anything pertaining to Jesus' Prophethood...
Given the era, the turmoil, and the outrage of the whole saga...
The "misconception" you're pushing on behalf of the ultra non-believers not only pales in comparison, but ignores everything that was happening at the time.
It's not a "misconception"...
It is just denial.
Edit: Beaten to the punch by JDmOKi... So the sense is common... I'm pleased!
originally posted by: Tangerine
originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Not sure if this is conspiracy or just folklore but thought it was interesting.
[Source]
Jesus has been described as the best known figure in history, and also the least known. If you mentioned the name “Jesus” and someone asked Jesus who, you might blink. Or laugh. Even people who don’t think Jesus was God mostly believe they know a fair bit about him. You might be surprised that some of your most basic assumptions about Jesus are probably wrong.
1. Married, not single.
2. Cropped hair, not long.
3. Hung on a pole, not necessarily a cross.
4. Short, not tall.
5. Born in a house, not a stable.
6. Named Joshua, not Jesus.
7. Number of apostles (12) from astrology, not history.
8. Prophecies recalled, not foretold.
9. Some Jesus quotes not from Jesus; others uncertain.
More to read at source. I've actually read quite a bit about the pole vs cross part and also lean toward the possibility that he was married and probably had children. Never heard of some of these others though.
Mythology? Just things getting changed up through time?
The biggest misconception is that he actually lived. There's not an iota of contemporaneous documentation (ie. historical evidence) proving that he lived.
I know it's inconvenient for believers to have to face the fact that there's not an iota of contemporaneous documentation proving that Jesus lived.
originally posted by: VigiliaProcuratio
Who knows, maybe Henry Tudor kept his son alive by sending him to America?