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originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: Pirvonen
a reply to: data5091
It is important to not confuse any of this statement with confirmation of an extra-terrestrial presence on earth. As far as the DoD are concerned I have not seen any statement by them. Burroughs is confirming that the DoD accept something happened to him whilst serving his country.
However the UAP could well be a 'natural phenomenon' that is is still not understood and affects human beings.
originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: mirageman
Here's how I read all of this. Of course the phenomena is real. We are probably behind it all. One day we will disclose how we made and built all of that stuff you guys think are alien space craft and we are closer to that day with this tacit admission , But today is not that day and you might not even be alive the day that it does come.
originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed
You are quite entitled to disagree with me. That's what makes these debates interesting.
However the problem is that in the Rendlesham case I can not find any outright proof that "a physical object of obvious manufacture... emitting radioactive material" ever landed in the forest.
Although I'd be interested as to why you are convinced one did.
originally posted by: JohnPhoenix
Intersting but this says Nothing.
All it says is that the fellow was injured by "Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon", not UFO's UAP's could be many things all of which can be terrestrial.
Yes, sure, and none of those issues exist in any "regular religions", the thousands of pedophiles in the Catholic church at least don't scam people, no politicians are corrupt, no corporations scam/cheat/kill people, out and out cults at least are more honest about scamming people........
I think most people are attracted to "New Age" because they realize the "Old Age" religions, political systems, and economic models are terribly flawed. And you want to tarnish the whole movement because of a few bad apples? I'll take New Age over Old Age any day. The intentions of most are pure, unlike the ones running "Old Age".
However, this is getting way off topic, and out of respect for MirageMan and his excellent thread, we should get back on topic. However, if you are interested, I would be happy to debate you in a "New Age" vs "Old Age" thread, but I wouldn't have any time to get into it until next weekend, around March 8.
If it were "natural" phenomenon then why was his records classified ? Why was he stone walled ?
.....Air-Force's seeming need to squash the truth to save their own asses according to their absolutes that have been put in place long ago.
I can see through dishonesty whether I am speaking to someone directly, or reading about what people did, what they say, and how they say it....
....Left vehicle, proceeded on foot. Burroughs and I were approx. 15-20 meters apart and proceeding on a true east direction from logging road. The area in front of us was lighting up a 30 meter area. When we got within a 50 meter distance, the object was producing red and blue light. The blue light was steady and projecting under the object. It was up the area directly extending a meter or two out. At this point of positive identification I relayed to CSC, SSgt Coffey. A positing sighting of the object…1….Color of lights and that it was definitely mechanical in nature. This is the closest point that I was near the object at any point.
When an object is up in space in orbit and elsewhere, it picks up a lot of free radioactive materials that stick to it, and when they come back and land, some of that material is left behind, and this was recorded in the forest there.
No one on Earth has a small advanced space craft like the one Burroughs saw and touched. Whatever it was, it was definitely in space before it landed because of the radiation it was contaminated with, and so it is possible it could be a secret craft, but not likely in the slightest. It is easy for me to connect all the dots, but I know this is not how everyone rolls, and they would just say to themselves that if they don't understand what I am saying, then I am the one who is wrong.
Another link is how craft of unknown design have bothered nuclear weapon storage areas many times, and when this happened in Rendlesham, no one knew that this base had nukes except those cleared and stationed there. ...
originally posted by: DarthFazer
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed
No it had to be a nuclear powered flying light house. Because nuclear powered flying light houses are an issue of national security.
If another nation would get thier hands on nuclear powered flying light houses imagine the implications. They could fly to wherever they want to at will and misguide ships at sea.
It has to be terrestrial after all if it is nothing close to conventional aircraft animals or "aerial phenomenon" it must be swamp gas , venus or nuclear powered light houses ; )
Disregard those trained observers , its natural phenomenon that is classified just because ... light houses lol
originally posted by: Ridhya
a reply to: Ridhya
And by the way my original question was on topic, as I asked mirageman whether he thought intelligence agencies may have been involved in adding this new age tract into the stories of servicemen, which didnt exist originally.
originally posted by: ObjectZero
Is it just me or we getting a lot of U.F.O. confirms now from government bodies? Used to bury it all, not really sure why some of it got covered up after reading over the reports after they let out. Some seemed down right harmless, just a saw something odd couldn't ID nothing more to it really. Does not mean it's a E.T. just that we have no clue what they really saw.
This brings a couple questions to mind for me. One is in tow part but can be lump together, why are we seeing the increase in sightings and number of confirmed sitings. We did have a little slow down for a while, but now it's really bumping up. Is the media just getting hold on it and trying to milk it for all it's worth right now? Two what is the main cause of the U.F.O sightings? Could it be E.T.'s or something else we don't know about on world that we just don't truly understand yet.
originally posted by: Frith
So we can finally drop the lighthouse debunking. I've seen several long posts from skeptics about the lighthouse story here and elsewhere for years. Good to see it being refuted.