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Loss of Christianity induced morality is destroying America

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posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 07:57 AM
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originally posted by: LotToTell2
a reply to: lambs to lions

Star and flag you couldn't be more right

But think it is too late to warn people or to turn this boat around

United States fate is sealed


The Antichrist is here and many of you comprise that vile ignorant group.

Some of you need to look inside and find that you are not very good people and a microcosm of this worlds problems.

Humans have been wiped from this planet for this exact thing in the past due to human ignorance fueled by selfish vanity as many ancient cultures have remembered in their lore.

So ya. The Antichrist movement is here and their blind ignorant views can be seen, their posts are usually angry. Good people sense their spiritual ugliness by the way they speak.
edit on 28-2-2015 by Shadow Herder because: (no reason given)




posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 08:04 AM
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originally posted by: Frith
The USA is a nation founded on slavery. Most of the founding fathers owned slaves. Minorities didn't even have full rights in the country until a scant 50 years ago. Why would we ever want to go back to the good old days of "Christian morality"?


It had slavery but wasn't really founded on slavery. We ended up having an awful war over that anyway.

Remember the old song spiritual...

Julia Ward Howe......Julia Ward Howe May 27, 1819 – October 17, 1910) was a prominent American abolitionist, social activist, poet, and the author of "The Battle Hymn of the Republic". And she was a CHRISTAIN!


Julia Ward Howe was inspired to write "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" after she and her husband visited Washington, D. C., and met Abraham Lincoln at the White House in November 1861. During the trip, her friend James Freeman Clarke suggested she write new words to the song "John Brown's Body", which she did on November 19.[13] The song was set to William Steffe's already-existing music and Howe's version was first published in the Atlantic Monthly in February 1862. It quickly became one of the most popular songs of the Union during the American Civil War.


Howe


Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword:His truth is marching on.



She saw the armies of the north as the "terrible swift sword" of Lord.

Educate yourself. Reject becoming a rhetorical tool.



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 09:03 AM
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a reply to: lambs to lions

I'm sure who ever created Gods and Devils knew if this species did not have something to fear we would become the predators we would be without something more powerful then we are.

It would seem we are seeing that right now what with the predator instinct overcoming the fear of God.

That being said it would seem that one religious group has used there God "to be all that they can be" so as to become the perfect predator in the name of there God... how creative.


edit on 28-2-2015 by Battleline because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 09:23 AM
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a reply to: ParasuvO

Some may do the same work. Evidence points to less and less people doing charity work than earlier times.

For many being moral may even be 'inate'. Part of their DNA, almost. Then there's the inspirational types. The Ghandi's, the Mother Teresa's, giants in setting standards for the rest to attempt living up to.

For other's? Not so. The examples set by parents, their patience and love and education mold and develop.

Now even if the parent follows those traditional paths, they can be overwhelmed by peers at school, and educated social moral code rather than a personal moral code, and all society's input on those kids.



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: liejunkie01
Why do you need religion to have morals?

Just curious as to your answer.



This was something I thought to myself quite a while ago. While for me and you, we don't see the need for religion to do the right thing, I say this: If, for right now, people use religion to do what is right, why should it be a bad thing? The end result is the same no? Adherence to religion, for the most part, has been steadily declining over the last few decades and I don't forsee it straying from that course, why not just let social and cultural evolution take place? In twenty years, less people will be religious and it will not have as much of an effect on daily life and encounters as it does today. In the end, I say if religion is what is making people do good (and it is doing much more good than the negatives it is also responsible for), then let it happen.



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 09:33 AM
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a reply to: chuck258

In the bible Jesus said about all religions is that if the core and actions are just, righteous then they are a very good thing.



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 09:38 AM
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a reply to: Shadow Herder

Life has a purpose and athiesm tends to force into believing there is no purpose that it is a spontaneous accident.

One who studies nature understands that all things were sophisticatly created. Its inner working more complex than anything man could create or comprehend.



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 09:43 AM
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originally posted by: Frith
The USA is a nation founded on slavery. Most of the founding fathers owned slaves. Minorities didn't even have full rights in the country until a scant 50 years ago. Why would we ever want to go back to the good old days of "Christian morality"?


No one wants to go back to 1775 social and moral code, that is you taking it to a massive extreme. No different than me saying you Liberals want an Oligarcal Socialist Communist state (even though that is closer to the truth than Christians wanting to go back to the 18th century). Religious people simply want a system of beliefs that conforms to Christian values. You know what the funny part is? I don't know if you've realized, but most law in Western countries more or less falls around Christian values anyway, albeit much less strictly than when say the ten commandments were written.

Keeping a day of the Sabbath? Taking a day off of work, in America, most people get two days off.

Do not steal? I think most know it's bad to steal
Commuting adultery? Most people consider it wrong to start sleeping with another person when you are in a commited relationship.
Shall not murder? This one us obvious
Shall respect Mother and Father? I think for the most part, people do, unless obvious issues like abuse.


Im sure I'm missing a few, but the standards set for how to behave today are modeled after the ten commandments. So unless you think changing away from Not murdering and stealing is a bad thing, America still has a system of Christian morals.



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 10:32 AM
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originally posted by: Shadow Herder

originally posted by: LotToTell2
a reply to: lambs to lions

Star and flag you couldn't be more right

But think it is too late to warn people or to turn this boat around

United States fate is sealed


The Antichrist is here and many of you comprise that vile ignorant group.

Some of you need to look inside and find that you are not very good people and a microcosm of this worlds problems.

Humans have been wiped from this planet for this exact thing in the past due to human ignorance fueled by selfish vanity as many ancient cultures have remembered in their lore.

So ya. The Antichrist movement is here and their blind ignorant views can be seen, their posts are usually angry. Good people sense their spiritual ugliness by the way they speak.



Lol just lol.... When have humans been wiped out? Noah's flood? The global flood that killed all but one family? The global flood that ALL archeology and DNA analysis have completely disproven? Or do you mean the boat that could never have fit 2 of all the land animals, because there are millions of species and the arc was in no way big enough??



Since the anti Christ is here all your money is usless so please could you send it to me??

Please keep making Christians everhwhere look crazy!
edit on 28-2-2015 by Entreri06 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 10:41 AM
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posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 10:47 AM
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originally posted by: chuck258

originally posted by: Frith
The USA is a nation founded on slavery. Most of the founding fathers owned slaves. Minorities didn't even have full rights in the country until a scant 50 years ago. Why would we ever want to go back to the good old days of "Christian morality"?


No one wants to go back to 1775 social and moral code, that is you taking it to a massive extreme. No different than me saying you Liberals want an Oligarcal Socialist Communist state (even though that is closer to the truth than Christians wanting to go back to the 18th century). Religious people simply want a system of beliefs that conforms to Christian values. You know what the funny part is? I don't know if you've realized, but most law in Western countries more or less falls around Christian values anyway, albeit much less strictly than when say the ten commandments were written.

Keeping a day of the Sabbath? Taking a day off of work, in America, most people get two days off.

Do not steal? I think most know it's bad to steal
Commuting adultery? Most people consider it wrong to start sleeping with another person when you are in a commited relationship.
Shall not murder? This one us obvious
Shall respect Mother and Father? I think for the most part, people do, unless obvious issues like abuse.


Im sure I'm missing a few, but the standards set for how to behave today are modeled after the ten commandments. So unless you think changing away from Not murdering and stealing is a bad thing, America still has a system of Christian morals.



3 of the Ten Commandments are specifically about only worshipping the Christian god. So that means 30% of the Ten Commandments are completely against western cultures laws.

Honor your mother and father is in no way a law. (40%)

Tho shalt not commit adultery , adultery is completely legal. (50%)

How about lying? Oops free speech.. (60%)


Don't want what your neihbor has. Jealousy is perfectly legal and a normal part of the human condition. In fact capitalism is based off wanting what your niebor has and working to get your own. (70%)


Stealing and killing being against the law is in no way solely Christian/jewish. The sumarians, egyptions, Etruscans all had the same laws millinia befor Judaism was a gleam I'm whoever made it ups fathers eye.




You watch way too much Fox News if you really think the poor majority of America (liberals) want a bunch of rich overlords. That's the republicans who love the rich and dismiss the poor.



edit on 28-2-2015 by Entreri06 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 10:50 AM
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originally posted by: Alienwolfmgi
It's not what you think . Everything is a lie . Just take a look

This is a documentary of a man who had his phone filming on his body as he got abducted.
Check more out here
www.indiegogo.com...



Lol indigogo the most reputable news site ever!!!



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 10:52 AM
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originally posted by: Shadow Herder
a reply to: Shadow Herder

Life has a purpose and athiesm tends to force into believing there is no purpose that it is a spontaneous accident.

One who studies nature understands that all things were sophisticatly created. Its inner working more complex than anything man could create or comprehend.



Except all the people who study nature (biology) all agree with evolution and reject creationism.... Where do you get this BS?



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 10:54 AM
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originally posted by: Shadow Herder
a reply to: chuck258

In the bible Jesus said about all religions is that if the core and actions are just, righteous then they are a very good thing.


Can you please quote the passage Jesus said any religion who is based on love is ok?


Because I'm pretty sure he never said that. Your just completely pulling all of this out of your a$$.



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 10:57 AM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: ParasuvO

Some may do the same work. Evidence points to less and less people doing charity work than earlier times.

For many being moral may even be 'inate'. Part of their DNA, almost. Then there's the inspirational types. The Ghandi's, the Mother Teresa's, giants in setting standards for the rest to attempt living up to.

For other's? Not so. The examples set by parents, their patience and love and education mold and develop.

Now even if the parent follows those traditional paths, they can be overwhelmed by peers at school, and educated social moral code rather than a personal moral code, and all society's input on those kids.




What are you talking about?? Even in modern times charitable give has steadily risen. Google it. The irs tracks it...



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 11:00 AM
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originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: Frith
The USA is a nation founded on slavery. Most of the founding fathers owned slaves. Minorities didn't even have full rights in the country until a scant 50 years ago. Why would we ever want to go back to the good old days of "Christian morality"?


It had slavery but wasn't really founded on slavery. We ended up having an awful war over that anyway.

Remember the old song spiritual...

Julia Ward Howe......Julia Ward Howe May 27, 1819 – October 17, 1910) was a prominent American abolitionist, social activist, poet, and the author of "The Battle Hymn of the Republic". And she was a CHRISTAIN!


Julia Ward Howe was inspired to write "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" after she and her husband visited Washington, D. C., and met Abraham Lincoln at the White House in November 1861. During the trip, her friend James Freeman Clarke suggested she write new words to the song "John Brown's Body", which she did on November 19.[13] The song was set to William Steffe's already-existing music and Howe's version was first published in the Atlantic Monthly in February 1862. It quickly became one of the most popular songs of the Union during the American Civil War.


Howe


Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword:His truth is marching on.



She saw the armies of the north as the "terrible swift sword" of Lord.

Educate yourself. Reject becoming a rhetorical tool.






You do realize Lincon voted against making Christmas a federal holiday because previous generations all agreed to leave religion out of government... Untile the tea party types of course...



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: Logarock




It was our christian values and virtue that saved the union and ended slavery.


I love the way Christians like to claim that any inkling of progressiveness and humanity came from them, all the while decreeing progressive thinkers as evil! And humanity? Evil to the core, according to them, with no discerning intrinsic value. HAHA

Logorock, Christianity preaches and teaches that slavery is righteous. It's teachings admonish the idea of "being your own man". You must serve someone, right? God or Satan. That's according to Christian thought, anyways. If you're not a salve fore Jesus, you're bound for Hell, am I right?



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: Shadow Herder




Life has a purpose and athiesm tends to force into believing there is no purpose that it is a spontaneous accident.


What is the purpose for life that Christianity places on humanity? A toy that exists for the pleasure of a bored God? No thank you! I'll take the happy accident theme. See my signature for verification.


edit on 28-2-2015 by windword because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 12:26 PM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

I agree Religion doesn't have a monopoly on Morals. However, it's about the only venue that's still outside the control or direct influence of Governments.

Even science-more accurately, technocrats(?)- is controlled by who finances what research.

The massive weapons development, GMOs, changes to quality of our foods, et al. point to the 'limitations' that exist in that sphere as well.

Once again, there is no significant addition to mankind in the area of morals by science-or the quasi-sciences- whatsoever.






Correct , it is up to the Individual to Develop a " Moral Sense " as a Sign of Maturity in an Environment that constantly Challenges it .



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 01:52 PM
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a reply to: Entreri06

I'm not referring to 'deductable' contributions. I'm talking volunteer work. Neighbor to neighbor. The man helping the lady with her grocery bags. The 'Boy Scout' assisting an elderly gentleman. Stopping to help a broke down motorist. so on.

Things that one doesn't need to 'google'. One sees it on a daily basis...or not. Sigh, different generations, I guess.



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