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Victor Marchetti on UFOs.

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posted on Feb, 26 2015 @ 05:09 PM
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Victor Marchetti (once executive assistant to the Deputy Director of the CIA) is an interesting chap in conspiracyland and it's said his expose on CIA shenanigans did help contribute to the formation of the 1975 U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence hearings (link) -his book also has the dubious honour of being the first the U.S. Government ever went to court to censor before publication.

Not exactly a UFO whistleblower per se, Marchetti does makes some very intriguing comments in the 'rare but largely speculative' article below entitled "How the CIA Views the UFO Phenomenon" -as C.S. mentions, Billy Cox over at the Herald-Tribune has posted 'the gem of an article' in its entirety and, even taken in a historical context, it's well worth a read as it covers lots of aspects from official /religious attitudes towards the UFO subject and government sponsered UFO studies right through to NSA and SIGNIT reports.


" Taken from Second Look magazine, Vol. 1, No. 7 in May 1979






Kids nowadays don't know Victor Marchetti from Adam, and Billy Cox hopes to set the record straight. Long before whistleblowers enjoyed indefinite asylum in Russia, Victor called out the U.S. government on hinky shenanigans during the cold war. Of interest to anomalists is his insight on the official take of The Great Taboo.

For your pleasure, Billy reprints a gem from 1979 on Victor's UFOlogical agnosticism while surrounded by many interested in the phenomenon. The inclusion of the NSA and SIGINT's dabbling in aliens, and their methodologies, to separate the wheat from the chaff, is provocative. An interesting point is there are no real secrets, but admitting one knows the secret causes all kinds of trouble. Despite being written 36 years ago, Victor's narrative remains steadfastly relevant to the information age and Snowden's revelations even if you ignore the UFOs. And how could anyone ignore them?



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Retro Friday: a blast from the past





Before blowing the whistle on America's illegal covert Cold War activities, Victor Marchetti was a 14-year CIA veteran ultimately promoted to executive assistant to The Agency's Deputy Director. After resigning in 1969, he wrote two exposes -- 1971's The Rope Dancer, and The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence in 1974. The latter, which the federal government attempted to ban from publication, was among the many slings and arrows contributing to the formation of the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence hearings in 1975.

In 1979, Marchetti stoked yet another controversy by providing a rare if largely speculative glimpse into the mindset of The Agency's uneasy relationship with The Great Taboo. Titled "How the CIA Views the UFO Phenomenon," Marchetti's magazine piece took a cautious approach. "The topic was rarely discussed at internal meetings," he wrote. "It seemed to fall into the category of 'very sensitive activities,' e.g., drug and mind-control operations, domestic spying, and other illegal actions. People simply did not talk about the UFO phenomenon."



Full Sourced Article



Related Links:

E-Book - 'The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence'

Bio
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posted on Feb, 26 2015 @ 05:24 PM
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Victor Marchetti wikipedia page doesn't mention Ufos at all. In considering his former position, and the stunning remarks he makes on the Ufo phenomenon I find it surprising not even a one liner is included on Ufos. To know there is something really behind this all and the information is being covered from public view, is simply a matter of observing the subtle things done to cover it up, such as leaving out reference to ufos on his wiki page. I bet anytime some one tries to add it in it gets deleted immediately.


The guy is still alive today as well, so hopefully he confesses everything else he knows on it before leaving this sphere.

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posted on Feb, 26 2015 @ 05:30 PM
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Reading the article now. I found this statement to be excellent for the CT crowd.


Governments prefer an ignorant and gullible public because an unknowing public is much more easily manipulated. In fact, that is one of the major reasons for so much governmental secrecy and official disinformation.


Continuing to read now.

ETA: This part at the end sounds the most reasonable to me.


If the existence of UFOs were to be officially confirmed, a chain reaction could be initiated that would result in the collapse of the Earth's present power structure. Thus, a secret international understanding--a conspiracy -- has been agreed to by the world powers to keep the public ignorant of and confused about contacts or visitations from beyond Earth.

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posted on Feb, 26 2015 @ 07:04 PM
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'The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence'
Not much doubt about that, and mostly means if there are rules, they will all be broken, the CIA is a cult, all intelligence services are a bunch of cults
to serve themselves as much as any country.



posted on Feb, 26 2015 @ 07:18 PM
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He comes into the Collins Elite stuff as he apparently disclosed the existence of the CIA's investigation into demonology. Make of that what you will.



posted on Feb, 26 2015 @ 08:01 PM
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Well if the US government and other powers of the world are intent on holding this information from the public what are they gonna do when some non-governmental individual or entity gets into contact with an alien species on their own? Will the government intervene and say, "You can't do that!"

Okay, let's say I'm the lead manufacturer in wood supplies and some aliens come down and offer to trade 10 kilograms of a new element for 100 cords of wood. It's my company, my supplies, my business! Is the government gonna go, "You can't have that, we're gonna shut you down!"

Okay, let's say Mars One gets into contact with space aliens, what's the government gonna do about it?



posted on Feb, 26 2015 @ 08:08 PM
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a reply to: Asynchrony

Ever seen "Capricorn 1"
THAT is what could happen to Mars 1 as a well prepared "MALFUNCTION" should the need arise.



posted on Feb, 26 2015 @ 09:17 PM
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a reply to: karl 12

To all of you who are demanding hardcore evidence and the reasons for a lack thereof I hope this answers any questions you may have....taken from the OP link:


The purpose of the international conspiracy is to maintain a workable stability among the nations of the world and for them, in turn, to retain institutional control over their respective populations. Thus, for these governments to admit there are beings from outer space attempting to contact us, beings with mentalities and technological capabilities obviously far superior to ours, could, once fully perceived by the average person, erode the foundations of the Earth's traditional power structure. Political and legal systems, religions, economic and social institutions could all soon become meaningless in the mind of the public. The national oligarchical establishments, even civilization as we know it, could collapse into anarchy. Such extreme conclusions are not necessarily valid, but they probably accurately reflect the fears of the "ruling class" of the major nations, whose leaders (particularly those in the intelligence business) have always advocated excessive governmental secrecy as being necessary to preserve "national security." The real reason for such secrecy is, of course, to keep the public uninformed, misinformed, and, therefore, malleable.



posted on Feb, 26 2015 @ 10:32 PM
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originally posted by: AthlonSavage

Victor Marchetti wikipedia page doesn't mention Ufos at all..


Quite a few high ranking individuals like that AS - some of whom have said some pretty eyeopening things.




originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck

ETA: This part at the end sounds the most reasonable to me.


"If the existence of UFOs were to be officially confirmed, a chain reaction could be initiated that would result in the collapse of the Earth's present power structure. Thus, a secret international understanding--a conspiracy -- has been agreed to by the world powers to keep the public ignorant of and confused about contacts or visitations from beyond Earth."



This statement from Jacques Vallee might be relevant mate:


"Governments took notice, organizing task forces, encouraging secret briefings and study groups, funding classified research and all the time denying before the public that any of the phenomena might be real. The major revelation of these Diaries may be the demonstration of how the scientific community was misled by the government, how the best data were kept hidden, and how the public record was shamelessly manipulated."

Dr. Jacques Vallee, astrophysicist, computer scientist 1992


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There are also claims that the U.S. Government are active in South American countries like Ecuador 'offering significant economic and career related incentives to Military personnel so that information and documents pertaining to UFOs are concealed'.

Things seem a lot more open on that continent and could be nothing but there's also a good interview in the thread below with Colonel Julio Vucetich (Director of Peru's Department of Anomalous Aerial Phenomena Research) who states his country having international meetings about the UFO investigative office to coordinate and exchange information - found it interesting because he states that France, Italy and Spain are 'the most advanced' yet you wouldn't know it by the way the respective countries portray the UFO subject to their own citizens.


Peruvian Air Force to open Department studying UFO reports


" Also quite a few cases like this one and this one of official UFO files being stolen or going 'missing'.
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posted on Feb, 27 2015 @ 12:47 AM
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Hmm, this article reveals so many things. I will list them. BTW it's speculation *wink wink* No particular order as well

1) It seems in addition to vetable eye witness testimony, it seems none other than the NSA picked up signals that arent from our nerighborhood. Communication signals probably.

2) CIA took the matter of UFOs seriously. Seriously enough to put scientists on it.

3) The CIA helped the hoopla get swept under the rug.

4) The oligarchs fear the public from finding out. It seems the answer to are we alone puts them and their illusion of power at risk.

5) There is cooperation among the governing bodies, mainly US, Russia, UK, France, and im tossing in Japan and India, to kept this info classified or away from the public. Oligarchs got this **** on lock, lock! China is saying screw you show me what you got while South America is an incident or two away from hiring Perry Mason.

6) I'm going out on a limb here but it seems that limited contact has ocurred between "us" and "them". It might have been limited.

7) Our gov, the CIA knows enough that ET is not presently a threat but here merely studying us. We go to Africa to study chimps, so they got to do the same thing.

The eye opening thing i read is when our man more or less hinted at the fact that the NSA intercepted or recieved some signals that aint from earth.



posted on Feb, 27 2015 @ 03:39 AM
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Ex-government spook wants the world to unite about aliens - nice try.

The globalists have been wanting to fake an alien invasion to create a world government for decades. See books such as The Stars Are Too High by Agnew Bahnson, The Flying Saucer by Bernard Newman, and The Watchmen, by Alan Moore.

How come people never find it suspicious when agents "leak" info but dont wind up dead... and how come people never see the reverse psychology... people see aircraft in the sky and the government denies they saw anything. OBVIOUSLY thats going to make them believe harder! Not to mention, leaving a 0.5% margin unexplained. If anything they're deliberately fuelling speculation about aliens. Covering up their horrid MK experiments, spying, drug running.



posted on Feb, 27 2015 @ 02:20 PM
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originally posted by: Ridhya
Ex-government spook wants the world to unite about aliens - nice try.

The globalists have been wanting to fake an alien invasion to create a world government for decades. See books such as The Stars Are Too High by Agnew Bahnson, The Flying Saucer by Bernard Newman, and The Watchmen, by Alan Moore.

How come people never find it suspicious when agents "leak" info but dont wind up dead... and how come people never see the reverse psychology... people see aircraft in the sky and the government denies they saw anything. OBVIOUSLY thats going to make them believe harder! Not to mention, leaving a 0.5% margin unexplained. If anything they're deliberately fuelling speculation about aliens. Covering up their horrid MK experiments, spying, drug running.


Wait, you're saying UFO sightings and radar returns and such disproves UFO's?



posted on Feb, 27 2015 @ 03:52 PM
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a reply to: Asynchrony

There are actually laws inplace by NASA if a human in the USA comes in contact with an alien they are to be quarintined.



posted on Feb, 27 2015 @ 04:08 PM
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originally posted by: LA1IMPALA
a reply to: Asynchrony

There are actually laws inplace by NASA if a human in the USA comes in contact with an alien they are to be quarintined.


Not saying that this isn't true but would you happen to have a link available concerning this?



posted on Feb, 27 2015 @ 05:13 PM
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originally posted by: LA1IMPALA
a reply to: Asynchrony

There are actually laws inplace by NASA if a human in the USA comes in contact with an alien they are to be quarintined.


I don't doubt this either, but a supporting link, especially one referring to an official government website, would be interesting.



posted on Feb, 27 2015 @ 05:25 PM
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a reply to: cenpuppie

That's pretty much what I got out of it as well Cenpuppie - that and he wasn't too impressed with the official UFO studies conducted by the US Gov (limited hangouts).

Regarding his comments about the Robertson panel, there's also an interesting FOIA doc here which shows that their 'conclusions' of the much touted 'scientific and impartial' study were already arrived at one year before by their 'sponsors', the CIA.



originally posted by: cenpuppie

The eye opening thing i read is when our man more or less hinted at the fact that the NSA intercepted or recieved some signals that aint from earth.


Yup, doubt we'll ever get to hear about those.

They've probably been 'lost'.


NSA says it has 'lost' its non-redacted UFO files.



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 03:09 AM
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a reply to: PlanetXisHERE
How on earth did you twist it that way? Learn to read, I said people see aircraft in the sky. Blue Book and other projects did nothing but reinforce the idea in people's minds that the government was covering something up. Reverse psychology. Radar returns (Project Palladium) and air force projects do not in any way prove aliens exist.



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 05:12 PM
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a reply to: TrueMessiah

I think its in the US GPO First responder book in the UFO section.



posted on Feb, 28 2015 @ 05:16 PM
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a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

I think i read that in the GPO First responder book in the UFO section. It makes sense. They quarentine the astronauts when they returned from the moon.



posted on Mar, 4 2015 @ 07:40 PM
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Robert Hasting's take on the article.



Although Victor Marchetti, the former Special Assistant to CIA Director Richard Helms, first published intriguing information relating to high-level discussion of recovered UFOs and dead aliens in 1979, in an article published in Second Look magazine, most people are completely unaware of it.

Indeed, an online search for the piece, titled “How the CIA Views the UFO Phenomenon”, yields very few results. While the Internet provides access to vast numbers of UFO-related documents, books, articles and blogs, one of the most important pieces ever written on the topic, authored by a knowledgeable government insider, has been almost completely overlooked.


Ex-CIA Official Says Stories of Crashed UFOs and Little Gray Men “on Ice” Discussed at a High-Level



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