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Originally posted by W4rl0rD
My rewritten list:
1. F-22
2. Eurofighter Typhoon
3. Su-30 MKI
4. F-15C AESA
5. JSF-35
6. F-14D Tomcat
7. Rafale "M"
8. Su-37 Super Flanker
9. Su-27 PD Flanker
10. F/A-18E/F Super Hornet
11. F-16CJ Block 50
12. JAS-39 Gripen
I would definatley put the AESA equipped F-15 above the Su-30MKI, its systems and radar are far inferior, and you might as well take the Su-37 off the list because all it really is a shell with a flight control system.
F119/F-22 Engine Nozzle
The F119 engine nozzle for the F-22 is the world's first full production vectoring nozzle, fully integrated into the aircraft/engine combination as original equipment.
The two-dimensional nozzle vectors thrust 20 degrees up and down for improved aircraft agility. This vectoring increases the roll rate of the aircraft by 50 percent and has features that contribute to the aircraft stealth requirements.
Heat-resistant components give the nozzles the durability needed to vector thrust, even in afterburner conditions.
With precision digital controls, the nozzles work like another aircraft flight control surface. Thrust vectoring is an integrated part of the F-22's flight control system, which allows for seamless integration of all components working in response to pilot commands.
The nozzle is manufactured at Pratt & Whitney's West Palm Beach facility, home to the company's military engine design and prototype construction.
Yeah, but like stated earlier, the Su-30MKI has the biggest bang for the buck, i'd personally pick the Su-30 above the F-15.
Originally posted by waynos
Actually, who says the Raptor has 3D TVC? I'm pretty certain it hasn't.
Originally posted by Seekerof
Originally posted by waynos
Actually, who says the Raptor has 3D TVC? I'm pretty certain it hasn't.
waynos,
Evidence's for this have already been provided. Su-37 (testbed and/or demonstrator) and the F-22 (production)have true 3D thrust vectoring.
Look through this topic again and the links are given stating thus.
seekerof
My rewritten list:
1. F-22
2. Eurofighter Typhoon
3. Su-30 MKI
4. F-15C AESA
5. JSF-35
6. F-14D Tomcat
7. Rafale "M"
8. Su-37 Super Flanker
9. Su-27 PD Flanker
10. F/A-18E/F Super Hornet
11. F-16CJ Block 50
12. JAS-39 Gripen
Originally posted by Hockeyguy567
Not quite, the Su-30MKI, may have TVC and has better high aero alpha, but it is not an aerobatics contest. The F-15 has better range, speed, radar, and missiles. Not to mention F-15 pilots have better situational awareness and pilot training (for the most part).
And i would rank the Super Hornet above the Su-27.
Originally posted by W4rl0rD
My rewritten list:
1. F-22
2. Eurofighter Typhoon
3. Su-30 MKI
4. F-15C AESA
5. JSF-35
6. F-14D Tomcat
7. Rafale "M"
8. Su-37 Super Flanker
9. Su-27 PD Flanker
10. F/A-18E/F Super Hornet
11. F-16CJ Block 50
12. JAS-39 Gripen
Originally posted by Hockeyguy567
I would definatley put the AESA equipped F-15 above the Su-30MKI, its systems and radar are far inferior, and you might as well take the Su-37 off the list because all it really is a shell with a flight control system.
[edit on 30-12-2004 by Hockeyguy567]
Originally posted by Daedalus3
Originally posted by Hockeyguy567
I would definatley put the AESA equipped F-15 above the Su-30MKI, its systems and radar are far inferior, and you might as well take the Su-37 off the list because all it really is a shell with a flight control system.
[edit on 30-12-2004 by Hockeyguy567]
Any data to back up that claim about AESA being superior to Su-30MKI systems? Keep in mind that MKI avionics and radar is Al-Israeli and well those guys are genuises...
Oye !!! no J-10??? Seriously I think its better than a F-14 or F-18 even
Originally posted by ChrisRT
From what has been unclassified about the V.2 radar of the F-15C puts it above the N001M of the Flanker. Its ECM systems are said to have the upper hand also...
Originally posted by Daedalus3
Originally posted by ChrisRT
From what has been unclassified about the V.2 radar of the F-15C puts it above the N001M of the Flanker. Its ECM systems are said to have the upper hand also...
The N001M of the flanker is russian i presume, my bad for being ignorant if it isn't!
I was talking about the Israeli avionics and radar systems put onboard the Su-30 MKI, at leas the one the Indian AF has. Are those inferior to american systems?Any data to back that up?