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Originally posted by W4rl0rD
Currently the closest thing to 5th gen Russian fighters is the Su-30 MKI,but thats 4th generation technology.
Originally posted by Hockeyguy567
Eastern block, you missed the point. I'm sure he was only saying that IF you think the Rafale and Typhoon are virtually the same plane then you would have to say that the MiG 29 and F-15 are the same plane. The point merely being to illustrate that they are NOT.
Not only did he miss the point, but he is totally wrong.
Originally posted by Realist05
The USAF is the best trained, maintained, and supported air arm in the world today. Any real world encounter with a Russian fighter would be over before it began, because American spy satellite/signal intellegence would not allow it to come down to a who-could-out-dogfight-who, but be setting up the kill as the Mig-whatever was clearing the end of it's runway.
Originally posted by Stealth Spy
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The Su-30MKI is 4and half gen.
Its radar , menuverability, 3-D TVC is better than the F-22's.
Its better than the Ef-200 in all areas.
Originally posted by Realist05
The USAF is the best trained, maintained, and supported air arm in the world today. Any real world encounter with a Russian fighter would be over before it began, because American spy satellite/signal intellegence would not allow it to come down to a who-could-out-dogfight-who, but be setting up the kill as the Mig-whatever was clearing the end of it's runway.
Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
Waynos, I know it's a sensitive subject, so please try to be unbiased,
Originally posted by Stealth Spy
f-22
Su-30MKI
EF-2000.
The Su-30MKI is 4and half gen.
Its radar , menuverability, 3-D TVC is better than the F-22's.
Its better than the Ef-200 in all areas.
also it costs only USD 22million per unit !!!
more info on : vayu-sena.tripod.com...
Originally posted by devilwasp
Originally posted by Realist05
The USAF is the best trained, maintained, and supported air arm in the world today. Any real world encounter with a Russian fighter would be over before it began, because American spy satellite/signal intellegence would not allow it to come down to a who-could-out-dogfight-who, but be setting up the kill as the Mig-whatever was clearing the end of it's runway.
Really?
Bold statement, no evidence to back it up though.
The US satalites take ages to get into position , if your lucky you can get it in mabe an hour but less than that? No chance.
Originally posted by waynos
For myself I believe that the unstable canard configuration of the Typhoon, amongst others, provides the most agile aerodynamic configuration that exists today, however fighters with TVC are going to be able to at least match and most likely better the agility of any delta canard fighter and so I think the TVC upgrade cannot come soon enough.