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A B-52 Mystery

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posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 10:00 PM
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OK mystery fans, I've got one for you. And no I don't even know the answer to this one.

A B-52 from the boneyard was resurrected Ave returned to service (61-1007). The reason it was returned to service is the loss of 61-0049 in a ramp fire at Barksdale. She suffered an oxygen fire that did enough damage that she was written off.

Now here's where it gets fun.

There were a total of 744 B-52s built. The last aircraft delivered is 61-0040. Now tail numbers are sequential. So if 1040 was 744 of 744 how was 1049 destroyed in a ramp fire?

If you look up tail number 0049, it traces back to an F-105.




posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 10:26 PM
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wikipedia says 742

en.wikipedia.org...

last delivered was in 1963.

looking over on this site.

www.joebaugher.com...

www.joebaugher.com...

but that's strange. joes site here says it's a 1961 serial.

and yes it's a 105. could it be a typo? was it actually 39?



posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 10:27 PM
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edit on 25/2/2015 by BombDefined because: too slow



posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 10:38 PM
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Ghost Rider
back from the dead



posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 10:49 PM
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a reply to: grey580

It was 744 from various other sources, but 1040 is definitely the last aircraft delivered. There was no 1049. It could be a simple typo, but I don't recall ever seeing a typo on tail numbers on an accident report.
edit on 2/25/2015 by Zaphod58 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 11:01 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: grey580

It was 744 from various other sources, but 1040 is definitely the last aircraft delivered. There was no 1049. It could be a simple typo, but I don't recall ever seeing a typo on tail numbers on an accident report.


of course it's a typo.
it happens when nothing really happened and one is making up a story - 'yeah, that tail number should be fine'.



posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 11:03 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

#Stuxnet ....period...end of story






posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 11:04 PM
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a reply to: jedi_hamster

Except something did happen. The only question is did it happen to a B-52, or is it a cover story. They're limited by treaty on the number of B-52 airframes so one way or the other Ghost Rider will replace another aircraft.



posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Is it possible the AC with that tail number was built for private/corporate use ... not for delivery/military contract?



posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 11:36 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

So you're getting all legal now...

What do you know about the WWII bomber that 'crashed' into The Empire State Building?

Just curious.





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posted on Feb, 26 2015 @ 12:02 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
OK mystery fans, I've got one for you. And no I don't even know the answer to this one.

A B-52 from the boneyard was resurrected Ave returned to service (61-1007). The reason it was returned to service is the loss of 61-0049 in a ramp fire at Barksdale. She suffered an oxygen fire that did enough damage that she was written off.

Now here's where it gets fun.

There were a total of 744 B-52s built. The last aircraft delivered is 61-0040. Now tail numbers are sequential. So if 1040 was 744 of 744 how was 1049 destroyed in a ramp fire?

If you look up tail number 0049, it traces back to an F-105.



Very interesting. I might have to ask my dad about this, but his security clearance may not allow him to answer. Sometimes he answers in a funny way to military questions he can't answer.

"Me no see.
Me no tell.
Me push button.
Run like hell!"

LOL He used to a gunner on the B-52's in the AF for about 25 years. He made Senior Master Sergeant with the Strategic Air Command, but moving around and troubles at home caused him to fail the Chief test twice so he had to force retire. When the gunnery job was taken over by a computer, he took some nighttime college classes and switched to Commissary/PX/NCO Management. He was very well respected on base.

He was specifically requested on the final flight of the Mohawk Valley, which now rests in Rome, NY at the old Griffis, AFB.











I still love looking up in the skies to see if there are any B-52's for me to spot. When I was 3, my dad had me convinced, B-52's flew over your house to drop off cheese for when you were out. LOL



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posted on Feb, 26 2015 @ 12:20 AM
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If you do a search for 60-0049 you'll find that tail number appears to also be a B-52H. Could it be simply a mis-type?



posted on Feb, 26 2015 @ 12:52 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: jedi_hamster

Except something did happen. The only question is did it happen to a B-52, or is it a cover story. They're limited by treaty on the number of B-52 airframes so one way or the other Ghost Rider will replace another aircraft.


then the question is, is it possible to determine if any B-52 was at that location, at that time, and if yes - which one was it and where is it now/did anything happen to it.

if we exclude the typo, then i guess it's a cover-up. you'll know better if in such case it would be better for them to 'bury' an existing B-52 tail number without ditching the plane, or throw a fake tail number in such report and hope that noone will notice.



posted on Feb, 26 2015 @ 03:17 AM
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But what do you do with the Aircraft from the Bone Yard, wont there then be an extra B-52 now in service if it didnt replace one which would show up somewhere on some sort of register.

Also, wouldnt the refurb of the new (old) 52 from the Bone Yard still be upgraded with any salvaged modern engines/sensors or something from the damaged one, this would make the company taking the bone yard plane to current config a bit suspicious or would they use spares on a new refit which seems a bit over the top if in reality the old one didnt burn.

Seems a bit too 'conspiracy' for me for not being a real loss and some typo.

But as its you Zaphod, whilst I believe you dont know the answer, I am also suspicious you do know what the answer isnt ie. a B-52 accident......




posted on Feb, 26 2015 @ 04:08 AM
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Apparently this guy reckons he worked on 1049

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I worked on 1007 and 1049 at Ellsworth AFB, SD in the early 80's. My all time favorite was 61-0025 (1025) Heavy Metal, she is now the NASA bird at Ames Dryden Flight Test in Edwards AFB, CA.



posted on Feb, 26 2015 @ 04:18 AM
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I have no clue..

0057 was my first, and 0001 was the worst pos at Barksdale, only kept it around because she is the Memphis Belle 4.



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