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Majority Of Republican Primary Voters Want To Establish Christianity As A National Religion

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posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 10:10 AM
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The same people that are now using the US Constitution as a reason and defense why this cannot ever happen are the same ones that are trying to destroy the US Constitution because the 2nd Amendment is an "out dated" concept.

*chuckles*




posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 10:12 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
This grinds my gears. The very same people being sampled as wanting a Christian theocracy in this country are some of the same people whining about an imminent Muslim takeover and instituting Sharia Law. Why is one theocracy acceptable, but not another? They both come with the same levels of intolerance and hate.


Maybe they should change the acronym from GOP to HOPD.

Hypocrisy On Public Display



posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 10:16 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

That information comes from left wing 'Think Progress' and it's based on a poll from 'Public Policy Polling' which is left wing as well. For them to say that a MAJORITY of Republicans want a theocracy is unbelievable to me. I'd have to see some polling done by non-biased sources to buy into that. I'm sure the fundamentalists would go for it. But the rest? I"m not seeing it.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: ~Lucidity

To tell you the truth, taking into consideration the history of our nation and the treat of radical religions that are becoming a danger to humanity and that I do not practice any organized religion at all have not problem with Christianity been the nations official religion, the same way that I will support English as the nations first language officially and I am latina, the irony.




posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 10:22 AM
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When tyranny comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag carrying a cross......Sinclair Lewis


It's a brave new world and the future looks bleak. The police state looms on the horizion.
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posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

That information comes from left wing 'Think Progress' and it's based on a poll from 'Public Policy Polling' which is left wing as well. For them to say that a MAJORITY of Republicans want a theocracy is unbelievable to me. I'd have to see some polling done by non-biased sources to buy into that. I'm sure the fundamentalists would go for it. But the rest? I"m not seeing it.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.




I think it said majority of Republican "primary voters," not the majority of Republicans.

I don't think that anyone believes that "all" Republicans feel this way, just like all Democrats don't agree on everything.

Problem is, this poll reflects the mindset of those Republicans who are voting in the primaries which is the determining factor in who heads the GOP ticket.

Conscientious Republicans need to take their party back from the nut jobs they adopted in their quest to insure that Obama was a one term POTUS.

Especially seeing how it didn't work.



posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 10:39 AM
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a reply to: ~Lucidity

Well this is what happens when a liberal organization only polls Republicans. I wouldn't trust the results, especially after the debacle in Mississippi's mid-term elections. Lots of Democrats voted in the Republican primaries here.



posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 10:39 AM
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originally posted by: ManFromEurope

Correct me if I'm wrong but since 1954 the US are a Christian nation as displayed by their pledge of allegiance:
I can only wonder about the similarity to this one:

"Children practicing the Hitler salute". I mean, really, why did they come up with this thing, which is so deceivingly similar to the Hitler salute?


It's called the Bellamy Salute, regarding being associated with the Pledge, it originated in the 1880's. If memory serves, the salute was demonstrated to Bellamy by James Upham, who was a children's magazine editor (where the Pledge was first published) Francis Bellamy actually wrote the Pledge itself, minus the crock about god, which was added in the 20th century. The Bellamy salute was replaced with the hand-over-heart one we do now in the 1940's. I think we all get the idea as to why.

Interesting thing to point out that riles up Americans: James Bellamy, the guy that gave the country this little pledge, the pledge that is held as so uniquely American? Was a Christian Socialist. Yep, our godless Pledge in it's original form was from someone who today would be spat on by most ATS members for their socialist views.
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posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 10:52 AM
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a reply to: Edumakated

You seem confused. What do you think is the reason that the Pilgrims settled the Plymouth Colony? They were in fact Brownist dissenters who were fleeing persecution by a state religion, the Church of England. This was also one group, in one relatively short-lived colony, more than one hundred and fifty years before the birth of the US.

Among the Founding Fathers, it has been well established that many were something less than traditionally Christian. This is perhaps most clear in the case of Thomas Jefferson. Who hasn't heard of the Jefferson Bible? Do good Christians make their own version of the bible that excludes not only the miracles of Jesus but his resurrection, the cornerstone of Jesus' divinity and Christianity? Benjamin Franklin is often a source of Deists quotes and though you'll similarly encounter still other quotes purporting to show a later shift toward Christianity, mere weeks prior to his death, he actually outlined his views of religion in a letter to Ezra Stiles on March 9, 1790. In this letter he explicitly notes his doubts to the divinity of Jesus.

What about Franklin's friend Thomas Paine, the man whose impassioned words, more than those of any other, inspired the American Revolution? He was a staunch advocate of Deism. We could go on and on about the religious beliefs of the FF but I think it would be infinitely more useful to simply realize that regardless of their own beliefs, these men wanted for the citizens of the country they were creating to have the freedom to worship according to the dictates of their consciences. To this end, no state religion was then — or should now be — endorsed by the government.

Perhaps we should remember the words of Thomas Paine who could be rightfully considered the author of the American soul:

"Soon after I published the pamphlet COMMON SENSE, in America, I saw the exceeding probability that a revolution in the system of government would be followed by a revolution in the system of religion. The adulterous connection of church and state, wherever it had taken place, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, had so effectually prohibited, by pains and penalties, every discussion upon established creeds, and upon first principles of religion, that until the system of government should be changed, those subjects could not be brought fairly and openly before the world; but that whenever this should be done, a revolution in the system of religion would follow."

-- Thomas Paine in Age of Reason, p.51

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and remember, the only appearance of God/Jesus/the Lord in the Constitution was in the date in the signatory section.
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posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 11:06 AM
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I think polls like this are absolutely necessary. This one is clearly a hit piece, but I'd like to see something on a wider scale. This one asked 316 republican primary voters. A tiny, tiny portion, so I don't trust the outcome at all. But I think the question is important and would love to see a huge sampling...

The Poll is detailed here.



PPP surveyed 316 Republican primary voters from February 20th to 22nd. The margin of error for the survey is +/- 5.5%. This survey was conducted through automated telephone interviews and interviews over the internet to voters who don’t have landline phones.


A majority of those polled also don't believe in global warming or evolution. They want Scott Walker for president, with their second choice being "someone else/not sure". And they have a 74% favorability rating of George Bush. So their respondents are clearly slanted to the more extreme right end of the scale.



posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 11:09 AM
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originally posted by: Flatfish
I think it said majority of Republican "primary voters," not the majority of Republicans.

Ahhhh okay. I can see that as a possibility then.

I'd still like to see an unbiased source or two do this same poll.
It would be interesting to compare the numbers.



posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 11:33 AM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

Here's one from a while ago that may be more accurate.
Omnibus Poll

This polls 1000 adults.



Would you favor or oppose establishing Christianity as the official state religion in your state?
Strongly favor . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20%
Favor . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14%
Oppose . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16%
Strongly oppose . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 31%
Not sure . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 19%


Point is, ANYONE who wants a religion to be named as "official" supports violating the US Constitution.
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posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 11:54 AM
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originally posted by: damwel
Absolutely we need this type of polls. People need to see what electing republicans is going to bring the country. It isn't terrorists we need to worry about today, it's the people we elect solidifying their power and taking away our freedoms. That is the thing about politicians, "they hate us for our freedom".


Great point to a degree. The flip side of that is that it's needless divisiveness.

I don't find either Christians or terrorists all that scary in and of themselves. What irks me though is either being used to further divide us.



posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 12:26 PM
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The entire intent of the 1st Amendment, besides free speech and assembly, wasn't so that you couldn't put the ten commandments on court house steps, it wasn't so you couldn't pray in school, or whatever silly thing atheists want banned these days.

It was to prevent the establishment of an official religion. It was to keep OUR government from doing what so many in history have done, which is to use officialdom of state religion to enforce religious edicts that got people killed or excused the crimes of those in power as righteousness.



posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 12:29 PM
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This reminds me of the poll that said one in four Americans believe the sun revolves around the Earth.


Maybe it is just me but I think there is a connection.



posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 12:49 PM
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Greetings,

When anyone challenges me for not saying the pledge of allegiance, I simply ask them which corporation I should pledge to, and which one are they pledging to.



posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 12:54 PM
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It's against the constitution so no.
WE DON'T need to become a country of PURITANS and it will not happen.
EACH man may choose his faith it has been the tradition of the US and ...again,it will be upheld.
So long as their faith does not tresspas on othersillegally it WILL be allowed here.



posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 12:57 PM
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This is comical to me. Just leftist fear mongering. The same people that are constantly accusing Christians of having a "victim complex" are probably the very same people sounding the alarm bells and claiming Christians are attempting to set up a theocracy in the U.S. Completely ridiculous.

I'm sure there might be some fundies out there that would like to see this happen, but I think most Christians are aware of the value of separation of church and state. What more evidence does one need than a cursory glance at the middle east?



posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 01:15 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Come again?? Hm. I don't remember wanting to destroy the 2nd Amendment myself... I would agree that if someone is a staunch supporter of the 2nd Amendment, they should be equally strong minded about the 1st... Would you agree?



posted on Feb, 25 2015 @ 01:19 PM
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]a reply to: Benevolent Heretic
Anything other than oppose or strongly oppose is a spooky response, IMHO. Secular rule of law is the only fair law and it is the only law that actually protects freedom of religion.



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