NV Republican says Cancer is a fungus that can be flushed out with salt water

a reply to: ketsuko

The 2016 campaign is underway.

But the Democrats need to get some topics of substance.

All they seem to come up with is weak issues.

originally posted by: Anyafaj

originally posted by: new_here
a reply to: [post=19045326]Anyafaj

My father used it on my sister when she had a 105 from Scarlet Fever and an Ice Bath in the ER couldn't reduce it! It's an old world Hungarian remedy my Grandmother brought over from Budapest, and no, I have no issue with Motrin or Tylenol.

I suffer from gout, it wasn't that big of a deal until I kept getting it and every time I got it the gout came back worse and worse. The doctors put me on allopurinol and it still wasnt really working and I kept getting it. This was before I realized it was Oranges that gave me gout (I kept drinking hawaiian punch) I know that sounds crazy but every time I eat oranges or something with oranges in it I got it.

Anyway I was fed up and searched around and found a bit of a cure for it take 3 tablespoons of vinegar and 3 tablespoons of honey mix it together and drink it down. This is the most vile tasting thing you will ever taste after the first sip you kind of have to force it down. But the first time I tried this the gout in my ankle disappeared within 10 minutes. I got another attack and back to the vinegar and it was gone within maybe 30 minutes this time because this would have been a really bad attack after the gout was gone my toe was still swollen. A few alleve took care of that.

I do think natural remedies work but it depends on the person, the sickness and the persons system.

originally posted by: sandman441

originally posted by: Anyafaj

originally posted by: new_here
a reply to: [post=19045326]Anyafaj

My father used it on my sister when she had a 105 from Scarlet Fever and an Ice Bath in the ER couldn't reduce it! It's an old world Hungarian remedy my Grandmother brought over from Budapest, and no, I have no issue with Motrin or Tylenol.

I suffer from gout, it wasn't that big of a deal until I kept getting it and every time I got it the gout came back worse and worse. The doctors put me on allopurinol and it still wasnt really working and I kept getting it. This was before I realized it was Oranges that gave me gout (I kept drinking hawaiian punch) I know that sounds crazy but every time I eat oranges or something with oranges in it I got it.

Anyway I was fed up and searched around and found a bit of a cure for it take 3 tablespoons of vinegar and 3 tablespoons of honey mix it together and drink it down. This is the most vile tasting thing you will ever taste after the first sip you kind of have to force it down. But the first time I tried this the gout in my ankle disappeared within 10 minutes. I got another attack and back to the vinegar and it was gone within maybe 30 minutes this time because this would have been a really bad attack after the gout was gone my toe was still swollen. A few alleve took care of that.

I do think natural remedies work but it depends on the person, the sickness and the persons system.

I think natural remedies are great. But I think as you said, it depends on the remedy, it depends on the person. Did they try any other remedies, such as medical advice? Did that work for them? Is this a matter of completely ignoring doctor's advice entirely? Is this dangerous? Could this result in death? Also, weigh your pros and cons.

Well, fungus grows... so does cancer... ever seen fungus growing in salt water? Ergo... they are spot on!

How many fish or dolphins does one see suffering from cancer?

I am now succeeding from the onion of man's convective inelegance.

Cancer is not really a fungus, but an immune response created by the body to a certain fungus can kill some types of cancer sometimes. You need to strip the mucus layer protecting the cancer off first though, this requires a different chemistry beforehand. There appear to be a few natural ways to do this, dependent on the type of cancer being treated.

We shouldn't be getting so much cancer in societies though, there is way more now than there used to be. It is not because we are living longer either. But someone has to support all the doctors, health care workers, pharmacutical industry, researchers, and the insurance company employees.

Cancer is damaged cells that have lost the ability to metabolize correctly so they don't know to kill themselves.

Either way, I find comments like the OP odd.

It's almost as if someone is trying to bring out the outlandish ideas that are nonsensical so the more relevant things are placed by the wayside...like Sodium Dichlorocetate with a caffeine regime.

Odd stories coming out from all over and you hear of a lot of really interesting things coming out all the time and they disappear or never get through the FDA.

Odd.

So the substance I mentioned above is one I gave to a relative that shrunk a tumor.

We wound up having to take him to the hospital because his white blood cell count dropped too low...the dose was a wee bit too high.

However, it worked. While may not be the only cure it worked far better than traditional chemo and radiation and costed far less.

What I will say is this:

They(government agencies, FDA, doctors(who just follow like brainless zombies any idiotic # coming out of those agencies) want to kill you all and get as much money off you before you die as they can.

If you develop cancer and go the traditional route...unless it's caught very very early(like very early skin cancer)...

You will eventually die of cancer, if not now then later down the road.

The system is set up to maximize the profit made off your slow and agonizing death by chemo, radiation, and cancer.

That is all.

a reply to: OrphanApology

Cancer is damaged cells that have lost the ability to metabolize correctly so they don't know to kill themselves.

It is probably impossible to describe cancer a better way than you did!

This thread may be of interest to you:

Modern high carbohydrate diet; let's discuss the science behind.

a reply to: PeterMcFly

I'm already on it buddy.

Well, on a ketogenic diet that is.

Thanks for link.

a reply to: OrphanApology

I'm happy to hear it!

It would be nice if you would post your practical experience in the thread I just mentioned. Think of it like a distributed open experiment, I'm sure many would benefit! As this diet is not without some danger, better to share all good/bad and all the technical details.

a reply to: OrphanApology

Cancer is damaged cells that have lost the ability to metabolize correctly so they don't know to kill themselves.

Not really. Cancer cells die at pretty much the same rate as normal cells. They generally reproduce quite a bit faster though and not as well organized as normal cells.

If you develop cancer and go the traditional route...unless it's caught very very early(like very early skin cancer)...

You will eventually die of cancer, if not now then later down the road.

I developed cancer. Stage 3B. It was throughout my lymphatic system. In my spleen too. The egg sized lump in my neck was the first hint something was wrong (apart from the night sweats and itching, that is).I went the "traditional route" 28 years ago. How much later down the road are you talking?

The system is set up to maximize the profit made off your slow and agonizing death by chemo, radiation, and cancer.

Not much profit to be had when you consider the cost of the equipment and the salaries of the doctors, nurses, lab work, and technicians involved. The money gets pretty well spread around. It was well spent as far as I'm concerned (my 12 year old daughter probably agrees). That death you're talking about does seem to be pretty slow in coming though. Not so agonizing either. Feeling pretty good, better than some my age.

I know others who went the "wheat grass route." They're dead.

a reply to: Phage

Ah yes, because wheat grass would be the alternative choice of champions right?

I also have an anecdote; I know people who went the traditional route and all of them are dead. The number is up to seven in my personal sphere.

So I guess it's my anecdote against yours eh?

Also stating that it's not hugely profitable is ignoring medications costing 5k a month with marginal benefits(yes those do exist) and that the average cancer survivor will spend either directly or indirectly(thanks to managed healthcare "insurance") HUGE amounts of money on dated treatments that haven't improved too much in the last 30 years.


To put that into perspective since everyone is disconnected from healthcare costs due to our insurance system...

Someone working minimum wage would have to work seven years full-time to pay off the lifetime costs of metastatic cancer treatment.

In fact if you want to check out Aflac they have a nice little breakdown here with some other article links:

www.aflac.com...

There are also new medications which can cost 100k per year for the patient.

So yeah, there's lots of money to be made.

a reply to: PeterMcFly

The diet doesn't really have any danger, unless you're the type of diabetic that has low blood sugar.

Otherwise the diet is just 75/20/05 for me generally.

75 fat, 20 protein, and five carb.

It's not always exactly around there and occasionally I do cheat meals.

If you want to copy paste that's fine but for now I don't want any additional topics floating around...about to go to bed.

a reply to: OrphanApology
I've been on ATS for a while. Not once have a seen a confirmed case of anyone surviving their cancer by alternative medicine, meanwhile my self and a good few others are still here to tell you their story of how they went with the traditional medical route. Maybe we are all shills for big pharma. Now if I'd followed the advice from people on ats I would have been dead quite a few years ago.

Jesus effing christ...Surgery, Chemotherapy and Radiation treatment have been PROVEN to help cancer go into remission or make it disappear completely. Yes people still die as a result of cancer even after getting treated with them however months if not years get added to their diagnosis as a result of being treated with chemotherapy or surgery.

Steve Jobs decided to treat his pancreatic cancer with alternative medicine, and he ended up dying. 2 years ago, doctors found a lump in my mother's pancreas. They performed a Whipple procedure along with chemotherapy sessions and she's still here with us and pancreatic cancer is one of the most aggressive ones there are. I really doubt she would still be here had she chosen to take baking soda and olive oil in order to make that tumor disappear.

My cousin had a tumor in his spine and lost his ability to walk, however with surgery and chemotherapy he's still here with us without it the chances his cancer had metastasized would have been 100%..which is a certain death sentence.

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
a reply to: OrphanApology
I've been on ATS for a while. Not once have a seen a confirmed case of anyone surviving their cancer by alternative medicine, meanwhile my self and a good few others are still here to tell you their story of how they went with the traditional medical route. Maybe we are all shills for big pharma. Now if I'd followed the advice from people on ats I would have been dead quite a few years ago.

I had a huge lesion / squamous cell carcinoma - Non Malignant (luckily). but i put up with it growing like a wart out of my lip for almost 10 years. I used to use a shaving razor to shave it off repetitively. the doctors wanted to cut my lip into flaps. I was not cool with that and told them I was going to try a few alternative treatments, Its funny he said. Nope. nothing will work. CUTTING is the only way. hah. well I dont want to talk about it too in depth. I tried LOTS of methods, from baking soda, ormus/m-state/m-gold, pdq, pumice, various skin softeners etc, in the end. do you know what I think made it go away, 1 word. "nutrition"

I do not have it anymore, i have 2 scars from the biopsy though =/ its gone. anyone who knows me knows im not making this up.
the last straw was at a clients house and her little girl said "mum why has that man got a tooth growing out of his lip". ha

anyway, I haven't been back to the specialist/doctors because I dont want to have to explain how and end up having a discussion about nutrition in which they know very little about. im not saying I do, but I know that lack of vitamins/minerals/elements/trace elements etc the works. you lack in any of those and the disease/condition/state you get in is signifier of a specific deficiency. E.G grey hair? a copper deficiency....


read this chart if you want more info.
DEAD DOCTORS DONT LIE
MINERAL DEFICIENCIES
www.kingmaker.net...
VITAMIN DEFICIENCIES
www.kingmaker.net...

a reply to: R0B3RTF1SH3R

I thought I would just elaborate a bit about the "ORMUS" "MSTATE" "MONO ATOMIC GOLD" aspect of my treatment.

Im not going to back story this however the reason I think M-state did not remove the lesion I had was from how it copies your 3 layers (conscious,subconscious,unconscious minds) into each layer, so you have 3 layers inside each layer. meaning I think it literally took a snapshot of my dna crystals and current projected state and protected it in that state meaning, it was never going to disappear . in fact probably made it harder to remove.

however, I do know that m-state is real, it does have the effects people talk about. most of the effects it had on me were elixir, esoteric , meta physical and of course on a physical level enough to re-enforce my belief of a process taking place. both physically and in my mind/metaphysical.... wow.

I give up.... Do what you want if EVER you do get diagnosed with cancer, don't take the advice of people who've actually had it though, they are probably shills for big pharma.

a reply to: woodwardjnr

stuff pharma, you don't believe me "nutrition" is the key? not drugs aka pharmaceuticals.
if you have no immune system, or you compromise your immune system because you killed the enzymes in your food by cooking them. meaning you now have to use your immune system to digest/process food into nutrition.
51% of your diet should be raw.
I don't necessarily follow this to the letter myself, but it makes perfect sense.
As the old saying goes. "you cant exist in growth & Protection" at the same time.

oh,, you gave up

a reply to: R0B3RTF1SH3R
The only part of that I understood was mono-atomic gold.

Anyway, I'm gonna talk about a medical issue I have right now which could be related to this topic.

One morning around six weeks ago, I suddenly felt like I had been shot in the pancreas with a microwave weapon. I went on to suffer considerable abdominal pain for around 36 hours, after which the pain mysteriously shifted to my lower back and lasted for another 36 hours. It was debilitating enough that I had a lot of trouble sleeping. I had absolutely no problem passing urine, everything appeared normal in that respect. However, the urine was of a cola colour due to the presence of blood and protein, which was confirmed by my doctor. A urinary tract infection was suspected and I was prescribed with trimethoprim, an antibiotic. I had two single doses on days two and three (so I took four of them in total). The problem substantially eased off on the fourth day. There has been no re-occurrence since and a recent urine sample was negative.

Four weeks ago I came down with a common cold and one week later I took a single trimethoprim. Since maybe one week after that I have been suffering with severe itchiness. It is now specific to the back of my neck, but at one point I was also scratching a lot just below my navel. My doctor told me that it's scabies and gave me some cream, which has helped but the problem persists. I had a bad cough throughout this time, although it has substantially eased this week.

The itching began the very next day after I had a friend stay overnight with me, which implies that they had an infection of sorts. In the case of first-time exposure to scabies, there are no apparent symptoms for some time, at least several weeks. The fact that I had symptoms within a matter of hours might imply that I have indeed been exposed to it at some point in my life. However, I have absolutely no recollection of having had a serious problem with itching so if there has been past exposure then I would have been very young.

Might it be that I have both infections and that scabies is thriving on candida yeast?

a reply to: Phage

Not really. Cancer cells die at pretty much the same rate as normal cells. They generally reproduce quite a bit faster though and not as well organized as normal cells.

I don't think you understand the science!

"Cancer cells have unique features that make them "immortal" according to some researchers. The enzyme telomerase is used to extend the cancer cell's life span. While the telomeres of most cells shortens after each division eventually causing the cell to die, telomerase extends the cell's telomeres. This is a major reason that cancer cells can accumulate over time creating tumors."

Cancer cell - Wikipedia