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It interests me that you categorize belief systems but you don't have a grasp on ALL of them
To your mind it seems there are only two, Atheists and Theists.
You know there is the Agnostic as well.
Belief in the existence of God on purely rational grounds without reliance on revelation or authority.
So what caused your rejection of this ideology
So all in all your assertion about a Spagheti that is flying and have a Raptor son named Jesus...well.....
Lol what? you think being Greek makes you an authority?
The term "atheism" originated from the Greek ἄθεος (atheos), meaning "without god(s)", used as a pejorative term applied to those thought to reject the gods worshiped by the larger society.
Do you not reject the fantastical claims of Greek mythology?
VHB:It interests me that you categorize belief systems but you don't have a grasp on ALL of them
Lucid Lunacy: Beliefs systems often categorize themselves with no need for me to do so.
You should have; before expounding on just a few favorite flogging/whipping points. Include all faiths without prejudice; favoritism shown to those only known. The others should be shown the same interest as to incur similar wrath.
Lucid Lunacy: I never said I had grasp on ALL.
VHB: To your mind it seems there are only two, Atheists and Theists.
Lucid Lunacy: You brought up atheists with your fallacious demand for proof. Yes I used the word 'theist'. I could use other terms if you wish. The point is religious gods are asserted by religious people, and the burden of proof is on them to prove, and not for others to disprove.
VHB: You know there is the Agnostic as well.
Lucid Lunacy: Are you even reading my posts.
VHB: Belief in the existence of God on purely rational grounds without reliance on revelation or authority.
Lucid Lunacy: Fine. Exclude deism then. Lets refer to the religious gods that do rely on the authority of revelation.
VHB: So what caused your rejection of this ideology
Lucid Lunacy: I make no claim to knowledge that such a deity doesn't exist. I simply disbelieve one exists. Agnosticism doesn't preclude one from being an atheist. I elaborated in an earlier post on this page.
Scholarly historicity will back me all the way.
But you most likely know that.
The others should be shown the same interest as to incur similar wrath.
There is no burden for either to prove NEITHER CAN DO IT;
That would render not only life and man, but the
whole universe with absolutely no purpose at all.
Also not even you can deny that, even in this modern era,
lives are changed and many even saved, in the name of Jesus
VHB: The others should be shown the same interest as to incur similar wrath.
Lucid Lunacy: You're completely missing my point if you think what I am saying about the burden of proof only applies to one particular religion. It would apply to anyone making a claim something was truthful. Did you read that link I included about that fallacy? It should have made that clear.
Lucid Lunacy: The Biblical god was merely the context of the conversation. The burden of proof is also on scientologist, hindus,mormons, etc, etc.
VHB: There is no burden for either to prove NEITHER CAN DO IT;
Lucid Lunacy: I fully agree neither can prove or disprove the existence of god, or anything said to exist outside the Universe. That doesn't change where the burden lies if the religious person is asserting it as objective truth.The fact it's currently impossible to procure evidence means no has proof for any religions god. As such there is good grounds for disbelief aka atheism.
No I did not read a link you did not author.
All of them, every one of them?
What if they don't see an argument that justifies the time spent?
Maybe they are sure of their faith
and would look at your atheism with a sense of charity, humor, compassion or concern as to what brought you to such a place that caused you to deny your creator being.
You alone made the determination to be an Atheist.
I'm not going to argue with you
you apparently have convinced yourself you have"good enough grounds for disbelief"
Okay. Do you believe Zeus exists?
I don't answer questions when that person ignores mine. Not how I choose to do things.
Also I could show you my brain activity with an EEG. That's physical evidence.
So I think we are done here.