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How Crazy am I to think I know where MH370 is? Jeff Wise in NY Magazine

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posted on Feb, 23 2015 @ 11:34 PM
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I imagine everyone who comes up with a new theory, even a complicated one, must experience one particularly delicious moment, like a perfect chord change, when disorder gives way to order. This was that moment for me. Once I threw out the troublesome BFO data, all the inexplicable coincidences and mismatched data went away. The answer became wonderfully simple. The plane must have gone north.

Using the BTO data set alone,I was able to chart the plane’s speed and general path, which happened to fall along national borders.Fig. 21 Flying along borders, a military navigator told me, is a good way to avoid being spotted on radar. A Russian intelligence plane nearly collided with a Swedish airliner while doing it over the Baltic Sea in December

How Crazy am I to think I know where MH370 is? Jeff Wise in NY Magazine


More from the article:


I realized that I already had a clue that hijackers had been in the E/E bay. Remember the satcom system disconnected and then rebooted three minutes after the plane left military radar behind. I spent a great deal of time trying to figure out how a person could physically turn the satcom off and on. The only way, apart from turning off half the entire electrical system, would be to go into the E/E bay and pull three particular circuit breakers. It is a maneuver that only a sophisticated operator would know how to execute, and the only reason I could think for wanting to do this was so that Inmarsat would find the records and misinterpret them. They turned on the satcom in order to provide a false trail of bread crumbs leading away from the plane’s true route.


This was just published a few hours ago and I found it very interesting. It's a pretty long essay but the evidence seems very convincing.

He claims what he has discovered leads to the theory that the plane was hijacked by very sophisticated hijackers. They were able to spoof the satellite data transmissions and then fly the plane to Kazakhstan where it was hidden. He names the suspected landing strip complete with satellite images and goes into detail on how it could have been done.


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posted on Feb, 23 2015 @ 11:41 PM
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There is no way 'they' just lost this huge airliner. I don't know if this gentleman is correct, but I am positive the 'official story' is wrong.



posted on Feb, 23 2015 @ 11:57 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Yeah, it's kind of amazing that they have found 0 pieces of wreckage in 1 year. It would only seen possible if Jeff Wises conclusion is accurate... The plane went north.



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 12:06 AM
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a reply to: drock905

Very interesting read indeed



But I Wonder why country's radars just extend to the limits of territory. If you're a military, you want to see them before they enter your air space. Can someone enlighten me on this topic. I thought radar were overlapping each other on land, going beyond borders.



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 12:15 AM
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a reply to: LoveSolMoonDeath

I guess it depends on the sophistication of the country's radar system. Maybe smaller governments do not employ over the horizon radar systems?

With the type of hijackers his theory demands avoiding radars seems plausible.
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posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 12:34 AM
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Technology that existed many years ago makes it impossible for this plane to just disappear. There is more to the story yes, but I do believe that the US and Malaysia at the very least know where the plane is, no matter what happened to it. In fact, I guarantee it.



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 12:37 AM
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a reply to: drock905

There's India's and China's borders over there. Not easy. Well maybe the landscape is helping. And IF it was goverment level operation, there could be jammers involeved... but I'm no expert though. Would an escort plane with jamming pod do the job???


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posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 01:01 AM
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This was a mind-blowing article. It starts getting good when the landing strip in Kazakhstan is discussed, with a whole lot of circumstantial evidence that's pretty convincing. This strip was specifically built for self-landing planes, and the 777 has self-landing capabilities. There's a lot more, too when you look at the images and what has been done to the place in the last few years. It's really worth it to read through this article.

At this point the only plausible alternative to a hijacking would be an undiscovered crash into the sea. Not a single piece of wreckage has been found washed onto land, almost a year after this happened. Nothing.

S & F for a great link and a very informative article!



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 01:18 AM
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Don't forget that we're talking about the Southern Indian Ocean here - it's a vast area and by the time that they knew roughly where to look any wreckage would have become waterlogged and sunk. As for the Northern theory a) what was the point and b) what happened to the passengers. Oh and c) do you have any idea how many countries they would have had to fly over?



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 01:23 AM
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a reply to: AreUKiddingMe

The only way no wreckage was found if it went into the sea was if the plane managed to make an emergency landing on the sea, and then sank completely intact or mostly intact.

Or it landed somewhere else, as in this OP.

Why would be the important question...and work back from there.



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 01:30 AM
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a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Yes, it is a vast area. But, not everything would have sunk and don't forget how many people were and still are looking for signs of possible wreckage. Until it's found anything is possible.



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 01:37 AM
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WoW amazing theory. But even the Iranians were able to take control of a us drone and land it in iran
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posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 01:40 AM
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Very interesting article! I have stated from the beginning that this plane was hijacked by whom and why I don't know. But the passenger list and maybe its cargo are the key. Not one piece of wreckage or material or passport or bag or anything has washed up which is indicative of the fact that no plane went down in the sea!!!



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 02:44 AM
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but I do believe that the US and Malaysia at the very least know where the plane is, no matter what happened to it. In fact, I guarantee it.


Interesting about the US angle . My brother in law has official dealings with the middle east . When i brought this up at Christmas while talking about ATS he said any theories about the plane headed at Guam and it was shot down . Will not verify his position nor try to prove it . Just throwing it out there .



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 02:48 AM
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The lack of wreckage possibly points to MH370 sinking largely intact.

They will find the aircraft. The search is about 40% complete.

MH370 search update



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 06:04 AM
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a reply to: korkythecat

Looks like a trustworthy source!



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 06:10 AM
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originally posted by: korkythecat
a reply to: drock905

The lack of wreckage possibly points to MH370 sinking largely intact.

They will find the aircraft. The search is about 40% complete.

MH370 search update

No they wont!!



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 06:17 AM
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I got a shovel, who wants to pay me a round trip to Kazakhstan to check out that patch of dirt.



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 07:12 AM
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I think his wife is giving him the benefit of the doubt with her 5% estimate that he might be right, but still it was an interesting read and he's pretty enlightened to do such indepth self-psycho-analysis...the whole article was entertaining even if he's completely wrong (from the link in the OP):


Neurobiologist Robert A. Burton points out in his book On Being Certain that the sensation of being sure about one’s beliefs is an emotional response separate from the processing of those beliefs. It’s something that the brain does subconsciously to protect itself from wasting unnecessary processing power on problems for which you’ve already found a solution that’s good enough. “ ‘That’s right’ is a feeling you get so that you can move on,” Burton told me. It’s a kind of subconscious laziness. Just as it’s harder to go for a run than to plop onto the sofa, it’s harder to reexamine one’s assumptions than it is to embrace certainty. At one end of the spectrum of skeptics are scientists, who by disposition or training resist the easy path; at the other end are conspiracy theorists, who’ll leap effortlessly into the sweet bosom of certainty. So where did that put me?

Propounding some new detail of my scenario to my wife over dinner one night, I noticed a certain glassiness in her expression. “You don’t seem entirely convinced,” I suggested.

She shrugged.

“Okay,” I said. “What do you think is the percentage chance that I’m right?”

“I don’t know,” she said. “Five percent?”
I'd say the odds are less than 5%, but if she's a supportive spouse she's not going to say "one in a million" even if that's what she really thinks, is she?



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 07:33 AM
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originally posted by: thesmokingman
Technology that existed many years ago makes it impossible for this plane to just disappear. There is more to the story yes, but I do believe that the US and Malaysia at the very least know where the plane is, no matter what happened to it. In fact, I guarantee it.


That's just it... Looking at all possible scenarios you come to a conclusion that if one nation knew where the plane was there would be a second nation who would report it. If it landed in Kazakhstan then there would be nations reporting that ho are not friendly to Kazakhstan. Same with Israel, Iran etc etc.

The only way for the scenario to work would be if ALL major players with the capability to monitor deep airspace are in on the "plan".



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