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Former World Bank Senior: A second species on Earth controls money and religion.

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posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 03:43 AM
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a reply to: mazzroth

No, he really does mean reptilians. It's not an invention of David Icke, abductees has been reporting it for a long time, Jordan Maxwell has also talked about it, you'll find people here on ATS that have supposedly interacted with reptilians.

What David Icke has been doing is he's been trying to find evidence of these things in history and mythology. If he's right is another question but he definitely does believe in reptilians as do many others.

Also, David Icke doesn't just point to Jews, there's the Vatican(Rome & the Jesuits), the "black nobility"(European bloodlines going back to the ancient world), the American military industrial complex with a supposed core of paperclip Nazis as well as their original investors. If there's anything to the New World Order conspiracy the Jews do seem to be a faction, but these wouldn't be your average Jews just as your average Europeans doesn't qualify as "black nobility". If there's meat to the NWO theory then it seems like there's several factions in an umbrella network with the same goals but also battling for supremacy between themselves.




posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 03:56 AM
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originally posted by: TheLaughingGod
If there's meat to the NWO theory then it seems like there's several factions in an umbrella network with the same goals





The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic. The truth is, that it is not the Jewish banking conspiracy or the grey aliens or the 12 foot reptiloids from another dimension that are in control. The truth is more frightening, nobody is in control. The world is rudderless.
- Alan Moore



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 04:46 AM
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originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: canucks555

This has gotten my attention over the past couple of years.

I tend to concur with Mr. Paul on the subject but, who knows?

Karen Hudes - Schizophrenic


It's quite nasty to accuse someone of schizophrenia when you have never even met them, all based some guy called 'Paul''s blog.

From my experience (of schizophrenia) she doesn't appear to be.



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 04:58 AM
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One more thread that will wax and wane over the years, new people making outlandish comments, older people disappearing, or even just dying, a huge merry-go-round of different owners, different horses.



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 05:36 AM
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I ended up doing some digging on this subject very recently and what stroke me was the complete lack of informations about her family or her youth or anything else. The only bio is more or less copypasted on every site or source which is suspect at least.
I stumbled on this post this morning looking for some Hudes-Zionist comments because it seemed strange that she hadn't mention the most notoriuos conspiracy, either to confirm or deny it.

neilkeenan.com

After reading his position I am leaning towards believing Keenan. Just to let you know who is this guy, he is the "1 trillion dollar lawsuit" guy with connection to the eastern wealthy family (the Dragon Families) and Benjamin Fulford. There is a thread about this here on ATS aswell.

If I had to take a stance about her today, I'd tend to the opinion that she is a disinformation agent wheter she is aware of it or not. This doesn't mean that what she says is necessarily false, but she does seem to have an agenda and she probably releases partial infos.



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 06:03 AM
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a reply to: TheLaughingGod

I am not sure what to think about it because psychopaths are usually brilliant.

Have you ever seen the movie Idiocracy? The premise is that smart (regular) people take their time getting an education and career and end up not having many children, if any at all. But the dumb regular people, lower demographics and "bottom feeders", are absolute baby factories, popping them out one a year each or whatever. This is actually a real phenomenon and effects overall world economics as well, since many of them will end up receiving some form of welfare. So that's on the far right.

On the other side of the spectrum there are cokehead genius psychopathic bankers on Wall Street and a variety of other cut-throat capitalist entrepreneurs who just want to make more and more money - without really contributing anything to society. Both types of people are essentially useless and excessive in such a way that is damaging to the overall (economic) system and the environment, and therefore could be reasonable candidates for some sort of eugenics program, I guess.

I'd like to think that I am so in-between that I am exempt from all of it, but I do support being productive and would like to be more so. I guess people should be statistically graphed on how intelligent and productive they are, as well as how damaging they may or may not be to the overall system, particularly to the environment itself in the long run.



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 06:14 AM
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originally posted by: Mastronaut
I ended up doing some digging on this subject very recently and what stroke me was the complete lack of informations about her family or her youth or anything else. The only bio is more or less copypasted on every site or source which is suspect at least.
I stumbled on this post this morning looking for some Hudes-Zionist comments because it seemed strange that she hadn't mention the most notoriuos conspiracy, either to confirm or deny it.

neilkeenan.com

After reading his position I am leaning towards believing Keenan. Just to let you know who is this guy, he is the "1 trillion dollar lawsuit" guy with connection to the eastern wealthy family (the Dragon Families) and Benjamin Fulford. There is a thread about this here on ATS aswell.

If I had to take a stance about her today, I'd tend to the opinion that she is a disinformation agent wheter she is aware of it or not. This doesn't mean that what she says is necessarily false, but she does seem to have an agenda and she probably releases partial infos.


She's simply relaying all the crazy theories posted on conspiracy sites. As Keenan said she's no one, only one more conspiracy theorist who thinks she figured it all.

Why do you think she's a disinfo agent? If she is, half of this board is too.



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 06:14 AM
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a reply to: Develo

Yeah, that would make sense if it weren't for all the evidence and the fact that conspiracy theorists are known for seeking out the uncomfortable, the things that are apparently too dark for most people to deal with. You're familiar with the concept of fear porn aren't you? We're info junkies and fear junkies and you think that we need crutches? Your normalcy bias is YOUR crutch.

And if you knew me you'd know that I'm not the one to wallow in comforting delusions, walking the path I walk I've experienced fear of a kind that could only be described as Lovecraftian in character, and I savour it. The guy peeking through the veil in your avatar, that's me. I don't run from fear or discomfort, I seek it out and shine the light of my consciousness on it. It's inner alchemy, you should try it.

I'd like to see Alan Moore or you talk about the comforts of dealing with malevolent entities, I'd really like to see that, that'd be a riot.

This view would only be valid to someone who haven't really explored the rabbit hole at all. The real plastic bubble of comfort is found in the conventional world and in conventional wisdom, cause the majority of mankind surely aren't brave, and they're Olympic level mental gymnasts when it comes to avoiding uncomfortable information. This can be seen all around us. Bizarrely ironic anecdote though.



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 06:17 AM
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I heard Hudes claim there was a secret stash of gold in Hawaii which far exceeded the total quantity of gold mined throughout the history of man (170,000 tons if memory serves).

This is the type of person who has self-deluded to an extent they fully believe their own lies. Personally ... I think any reference to her (or Steven Greer) should just be trundled off to the LOL forum.



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 06:21 AM
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originally posted by: charlyv
Given her bio, that is indeed a revolutionary bomb shell if true.
A person with her credentials making a statement like that (and what else she said, in the link) ... What? ... excuse me.. but What?

She either blew a neuron with too many vital connections, or we are a most delusional public, for sure.


Ya that's some mental break down if she had one. I've seen people snap from work stress be for but they never jump right in madness right off, it takes a few years for that.

If what she said is true wouldn't the people in control just remove her or wipe all her stories for the web and media? With something or things with that much control or power I have trouble figuring out how they manage to let any info leak out. What are they slipping or are we getting better are resisting?

If what she thinks is true why not layout all proof for all the reach? In all that time knowing about them and working for them as it seems you don't have one personal photo of all this.



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 06:22 AM
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I remember looking into this when it first began making the rounds a few years ago. Can't find my old stuff, but if I recall correctly she claimed the second species in question was homo capensis. Not alien or anything weird, just a species that evolved first. Their numbers were devastated in the Ice Age and as humanity evolved they took the reins, instilling a sense of religion into us to keep us orderly. As time went on they implemented the banking system to tighten their hold on us.
They have a larger cranium than us, which is why a lot of religious apparel has a mitre or similar headwear. To hide the members of the species that need to appear in public. Cranial binding (the practice of binding the skulls of newborns to change their shape) is a tradition that seeks to emulate the look of the 'gods'. They can produce offspring with us but the children are always infertile and covered in hair.

Now, this is just what I recall having read. Memory may have faded some details, and I'm making no opinions on it until I've properly refreshed my memory



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 06:27 AM
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I suggest you people take the time to listen to this entire interview on Red Ice Radio.
She is clearly not insane, delusional, intoxicated or otherwise mentally impaired. She is incredibly articulate and intelligent.

The only real question I have is, why is she still upright?



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 06:28 AM
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I reckon that the comments on elongated heads is complete and utter bollocks, but the suggestion that there is a species which we are not aware of is something we seriously need to consider. I've been thinking about this lately and then this thread suddenly popped up, so I'm intrigued.



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 06:39 AM
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originally posted by: TheLaughingGod
a reply to: Develo

Yeah, that would make sense if it weren't for all the evidence and the fact that conspiracy theorists are known for seeking out the uncomfortable, the things that are apparently too dark for most people to deal with.


There are three main types of people into conspiracy theories:
- People bored with their life and who want more mystery into it. As long as they know they get into conspiracies mainly for entertainment they cannot delude themselves. Usually they are the people who are the most into "fear porn" as you called it.
- People who genuinely want nothing but the truth. They have no preconceptions, no bias toward the existence or nonexistence of conspiracies/paranormal stuff. Since they value the truth the most, they are not afraid when the conclusion of their research is that there was in fact no conspiracy or paranormal stuff. They are the most interesting and dedicated truth searchers, they know the limits of human knowledge and the pitfalls of self-delusion so they can stay away from it. They get very often labelled as "shills" because of their good critical sense.
- People who, like Moore said, fill that irrational need for a controlling force above them, not from a deity like most people, but with modern "deities". The conspiracy memes. The NWO/illuminati/jews/aliens/reptilians, you name it. They all have the same archetypal role, the modern version of the old gods. They are above mankind, and most of the time they see mankind as nothing but useful cattle. These people are usually the most deluded because they can't really see the reason why they desperately try to put someone or something in control of this planet. It's all done unconsciously.



originally posted by: TheLaughingGod
And if you knew me you'd know that I'm not the one to wallow in comforting delusions, walking the path I walk I've experienced fear of a kind that could only be described as Lovecraftian in character, and I savour it. The guy peeking through the veil in your avatar, that's me. I don't run from fear or discomfort, I seek it out and shine the light of my consciousness on it. It's inner alchemy, you should try it.

I'd like to see Alan Moore or you talk about the comforts of dealing with malevolent entities, I'd really like to see that, that'd be a riot.

This view would only be valid to someone who haven't really explored the rabbit hole at all. The real plastic bubble of comfort is found in the conventional world and in conventional wisdom, cause the majority of mankind surely aren't brave, and they're Olympic level mental gymnasts when it comes to avoiding uncomfortable information. This can be seen all around us. Bizarrely ironic anecdote though.


It's funny you mention that. Alan Moore is actually a famous practician of "magic" and inner alchemy and this transpires through all his works.

If you were a bit more humble (like the path requires us to be) you would read his accounts on the subject and find them useful and full of wisdom.

Myself I also followed the same path, going "through the rabbit hole" as you put it, to visit the interior of the earth, finding the stone and rectifying it. I also met the guardian of the threshold, what you called "lovecraftian fear". The way you talk about it make it look like you really consider it some kind of external entity. Fear is an emotion originating from inside. When you encounter the Guardian, you encounter your own fears. What you saw was only smoke and mirrors, but it looks like it made a strong impression on you!


It's all very clear that you took his quote personally and felt the need to defend yourself. Unfortunately, not only is he correct, but it also shows that you still have a long way to go on the path to know and perfect yourself more.

All the boogeymen humanity invents all the time are nothing but the reflection of their inner fears. People who belong to higher power levels know exactly how it is there. There is no common agenda, no concerted effort, no worldwide secret cabal pulling all the strings. Only thousands of individuals with different goals, values and agenda. It's a joyous mess and it's a miracle that this mess gives the illusion of an organised world.


No LaughingGod, the guy peeking through the veil isn't you. It's my avatar and I chose it
Your avatar is Cegorach, the god of a dying race who fell into decadence because of their pride and sensuality. The most common traps for a magician to fall into. Truly the universe loves irony


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posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 06:41 AM
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The woman was just a lawyer for the World Bank. If there were any secret Hominid Jesuit overlords she wasn't meeting with them.

But it doesn't matter. She's getting this from a conspiracy theorist named Edward Spencer. It has nothing to do with anything she learned at the World Bank:



Note carefully that Spencer “discovered” this only in 2012, which is five years after Hudes left the World Bank. Hudes’s claims about global finance therefore come not from firsthand experience but from an acceptance of secondhand conspiracy at least five years after she left her job, found her earlier claims of World Bank corruption failed to turn a profit, and started her tour of the fringe circuit to play off fears of global elites, distrust of finance, and conspiracy theories. Here’s where it gets interesting, but not in a good way. Spencer and Hudes are email buddies and have been sharing information. .......... In those emails, Hudes can be seen desperately trying to interest “US television stations” in her years-old claims about corruption in international banking and the “blackmail” of foreign ambassadors in the U.S., which the U.S. media ignored, to her dismay. (She had appeared on the U.S. version of the Russian propaganda channel RT in 2013.) Spencer, on his end, provided her with a set of talking points on March 2 of this year, and informed her that he believed (and this makes me very sad) that “someone” was communicating with him about the secret history of the world through controlling his 9-year-old nephew’s thoughts


Secret Emails Provide Glimpse Behind the Scenes of a Fringe History Conspiracy Theory



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 07:09 AM
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Yes, I've seen it, been a favorite movie of mine for years now.

I can't agree with your last paragraph, sounds far too totalitarian and dystopic for me. I think we should gravitate and aspire towards freedom and personal and collective growth instead of production necessarily being our first priority. Our environment and our most base needs should be met before anything else I think. A secondary priority would be mental, physical and spiritual elevation of the masses as well as more free time for family, friends, alone time, personal reflection, creative hobbies and building a strong sense of community.

When it comes to eugenics the world needs to start talking about "soft eugenics". I feel that the West in going the complete opposite way of the Nazis has ended up on the other far end of the spectrum where we can't even mention anything close to it without having all kinds of knee-jerk reactions. The West has painted itself into a corner this way and future technology/concepts such as designer babies will bring this debate to the forefront again. China on the other hand is embracing it, they have no such compunctions about political correctness.

I am wary of eugenics though, but this segment of the population; the psychopaths. The potential benefits of getting rid of them just seems too advantageous.

An interesting article discussing this and the situation in China:

www.toqonline.com...

I definitely think radical and wildly effective measures should be proposed and discussed in the public forum more. Let's face it, we need radical change, we need to change things and fast. We have so many potentially disastrous situations going on right now. Really what we should be doing is, since the state likes to infantilize us the people and treat us as kids and since they've effectively made us all wards of the state in all but name we should start revoking their authority on grounds of extreme incompetence. In almost all their dealings, worldwide. We should revoke all their power on grounds of their severe abuse of it, and on grounds of the astonishing lack of responsibility and accountability.

They have no real political legitimacy, they deserve no legitimacy. Ron Paul is cool.. but he's one in a million. We have a real deficiency in leadership. The whole damn category is rotten to the core and really, they should be glad if we don't hang them all from the god damned lamp posts!



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 07:23 AM
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Credentials don't protect you from crazy. a reply to: ecapsretuo



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 07:27 AM
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a reply to: Develo



Why do you think she's a disinfo agent? If she is, half of this board is too.


Indeed.

However let's be rational, do you think there are no coverups at highest levels? You'd be delusional and I guess you aren't. So people like this one (from her words she was a hippy, a revolutionary in the 70s) may have been fed some verifiable, some unfalsifiable and some outright BS because she was expectedly going to whistle the blow.

I tend to believe that alien infos, wheter true or not, are rather accessible at certain levels as a mean of discredit whistleblowers. Most people once they hear about ETs or absurd conspiracies just dismiss entirely the other infos that may be genuine or anecdotal, but worth a review.

You seem to think there are no conspiracies, I have a totally different opinion and so far history easily confirms that all countries in the world have conspiracies at highest levels. This doesn't mean every conspiracy is true, disinfo was born for this, and somebody does that job without even being hired!



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 07:29 AM
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originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
Credentials don't protect you from crazy. a reply to: ecapsretuo



Crazy people don't always lie tho.



posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 07:31 AM
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