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originally posted by: olaru12
America is in the business of war....politics and that dumbass Rand Paul don't even enter into the decisions being made behind closed doors.
Rands blatant pandering makes me want to puke; pretending he's not a neocon just like Bush and Obama. Corporate water boys.....
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: xuenchen
And if the Sunni armies unite, we will see a new Caliphate.
originally posted by: greencmp
The IS is Sunni.
And that's the point of the Media psy-ops.
ISIS might join with all the Sunni armies.
The end result will begin with the fall of Shi'ite Damascus and Baghdad.
Not as far fetched as the MSM would have people believe.
originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: MrSpad
No we don't. We made most of the mess. We don't have to fix it.
Why?
Why when there is every indication that we will just kill more people and make it even worse again in the long run?
Time for our military to stop working for the corporations and becoming embroiled in senseless, useless, purposeless wars that we will never win.
When a project fails, there comes a time, where you stop it. Stop throwing good money after the bad. Stop doing more of what you did before because it won't work.
A smart person knows when to fold em. And it's time.
The Middle East needs to fix itself. And that includes Israel.
originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: crazyewok
That's arugable communism has many fronts for which the war could be fought. Just like every war filled with proxy wars and such.
Senator Paul says he has his own plan to combat ISIS. He introduced a measure in December which would declare war on ISIS and allow limited use of ground forces in special cases.
“I do think though that the boots on the ground that will be necessary should be Arab boots on the ground,” said Paul.
“There needs to be 10,000 Saudi Arabians at the front of every Battalion. Saudi Arabians, people who live there need to fight.” [Source]
originally posted by: MrSpad
originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: MrSpad
How'd they ever get along before we came along.
Oh wait. They didn't, but isn't that their business to settle? Didn't we make in exponentially worse?
The combined forces of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Egypt, and few others and maybe (gasp) Iran, or any combinations thereof, might do it.
Global Firepower
The amount of forces means nothing. For example China has the largest military on Earth but could not invade say Madagascar. They do not have the abilty to project force. These countries would only have smalll forces capable of being deployed and the supported. Not to mention that none of them will side publicly with Isreal. What is going on now is the best solution. The Iraqis, Kurds will do most of the fighting being trained and suppoted with intel, air power, weapons etc by the West and Arab powers. They have been making gains for months and will continue to do so. And yes are actions in Iraq pretty much allowed this mess to happen so we do have some responability to help fix it.
While others at the nation’s largest gathering of conservative activists spoke blithely about regime change in Iran, Paul learned the lessons of the Iraq war.
Those lessons aren’t simply that we invaded with too few troops or left too soon. And the alternative isn’t “isolationism” or pacifism.
Paul minced no words about the “dangerous and barbaric cult” known as ISIS. “Without question, we must now defend ourselves and American interests from this barbarous aberration of Islam,” he said. “Without question, we must be strong.”
The senator condemned “mobs burning our flag and chanting ‘death to America.'” He called for “a national defense robust enough to defend against all attacks, modern enough to deter all enemies, and nimble enough to defend our vital interests.”
But Paul also noted that some of our wars have spread chaos and jihad, not freedom and democracy. Some of the factions we’ve armed are now shooting at us with the weapons our tax dollars have paid for. And he acknowledged that the logic of limited government applies abroad as well as at home.