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Rand Paul tells Saudi Arabia to fight their own fights and wipe out ISIS

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posted on Feb, 23 2015 @ 07:40 PM
He is correct.
If it was the other way around where Islamic Countries or European Countries were trying to contain terrorists in the USA, the terrorists would have a lot more support from the general population if it was Islamic Countries meddling in our affairs.

posted on Feb, 23 2015 @ 07:42 PM

originally posted by: olaru12

America is in the business of war....politics and that dumbass Rand Paul don't even enter into the decisions being made behind closed doors.
Rands blatant pandering makes me want to puke; pretending he's not a neocon just like Bush and Obama. Corporate water boys.....

Yep, it is all political theater BS anyways. The Defense Lobbyists will get what they want.
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posted on Feb, 23 2015 @ 08:31 PM

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: xuenchen

And if the Sunni armies unite, we will see a new Caliphate.

originally posted by: greencmp

The IS is Sunni.

And that's the point of the Media psy-ops.

ISIS might join with all the Sunni armies.

The end result will begin with the fall of Shi'ite Damascus and Baghdad.

Not as far fetched as the MSM would have people believe.

Since neither of us cares who inherited the baton from muhammad, it is a wash.

From our perspective they are both enemies who happen to have internal disagreements.

I don't think it will take long for one or the other side to 'submit' as the religion requires.

We are well past the possibility of playing them against each other, they are now focused on Europe with blood and destruction on their minds.
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posted on Feb, 23 2015 @ 11:06 PM

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: MrSpad

No we don't. We made most of the mess. We don't have to fix it.


Why when there is every indication that we will just kill more people and make it even worse again in the long run?

Time for our military to stop working for the corporations and becoming embroiled in senseless, useless, purposeless wars that we will never win.

When a project fails, there comes a time, where you stop it. Stop throwing good money after the bad. Stop doing more of what you did before because it won't work.

A smart person knows when to fold em. And it's time.

The Middle East needs to fix itself. And that includes Israel.

Some policy we took in Europe before we ended up with 2 World Wars. This is why the US prefers small wars that contains conflicts. Otherwise you end up with wars so large that more people die in a single battle than in every US conflict since.

posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 04:21 AM

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: crazyewok

That's arugable communism has many fronts for which the war could be fought. Just like every war filled with proxy wars and such.

Or you should just let a soverign country choose its own goverment and economic system and fight its own civil wars.

Not to mention the south vietnamese goverment the US was propping up was practicaly a dictorship involved in a multitude of its own atrocitys.

posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 05:56 AM

Senator Paul says he has his own plan to combat ISIS. He introduced a measure in December which would declare war on ISIS and allow limited use of ground forces in special cases.

“I do think though that the boots on the ground that will be necessary should be Arab boots on the ground,” said Paul.

“There needs to be 10,000 Saudi Arabians at the front of every Battalion. Saudi Arabians, people who live there need to fight.” [Source]

posted on Feb, 24 2015 @ 06:09 AM

originally posted by: MrSpad

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: MrSpad

How'd they ever get along before we came along.

Oh wait. They didn't, but isn't that their business to settle? Didn't we make in exponentially worse?

The combined forces of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Egypt, and few others and maybe (gasp) Iran, or any combinations thereof, might do it.

Global Firepower

The amount of forces means nothing. For example China has the largest military on Earth but could not invade say Madagascar. They do not have the abilty to project force. These countries would only have smalll forces capable of being deployed and the supported. Not to mention that none of them will side publicly with Isreal. What is going on now is the best solution. The Iraqis, Kurds will do most of the fighting being trained and suppoted with intel, air power, weapons etc by the West and Arab powers. They have been making gains for months and will continue to do so. And yes are actions in Iraq pretty much allowed this mess to happen so we do have some responability to help fix it.

Well that were NATO forces should come in.

Let the US/UK/France do the logistics and air support and let the Arabs and Persians do the front line fighting.

posted on Feb, 27 2015 @ 05:37 PM
Rand Paul’s CPAC speech was an opening salvo in the foreign policy debate Republicans must have

While others at the nation’s largest gathering of conservative activists spoke blithely about regime change in Iran, Paul learned the lessons of the Iraq war.
Those lessons aren’t simply that we invaded with too few troops or left too soon. And the alternative isn’t “isolationism” or pacifism.
Paul minced no words about the “dangerous and barbaric cult” known as ISIS. “Without question, we must now defend ourselves and American interests from this barbarous aberration of Islam,” he said. “Without question, we must be strong.”
The senator condemned “mobs burning our flag and chanting ‘death to America.'” He called for “a national defense robust enough to defend against all attacks, modern enough to deter all enemies, and nimble enough to defend our vital interests.”
But Paul also noted that some of our wars have spread chaos and jihad, not freedom and democracy. Some of the factions we’ve armed are now shooting at us with the weapons our tax dollars have paid for. And he acknowledged that the logic of limited government applies abroad as well as at home.

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